I think the Total War series is a bit out of the scope of the discussion, being a treatment of 16th century Japan and 11th-15th century Europe, so far. I like Medieval better than Shogun. Playing as Byzantium or the Holy Roman Empire is far more interesting than playing as a Japanese Clan (all of whom have pretty much the same units).
Can’t wait for Rome Total War though, the graphics alone are to die for, and Roman history is the most interesting real life story ever told.
Originally posted by Kfir
you havnt flown WW2 until you’ve tried European Air War with all the new mods 🙂
That ancient thing? Bah. Il-2 Forgotten Battles beats it with a stick and leaves it bleeding on the roadside, where it is then run over by several large trucks.
Oh, and to rectify all the horrid screenshots of inferior games in this thread:
A pair of MiG-29S, probably on their way back home.

and a MiG-29 and Su-27IB being serviced:

The economy is being revived.
Originally posted by F-18 Hamburger
Indiana produces it’s own R-77? something new I learned today. Who are they exporting it to other than domestic use.
He meant imports.
The BTR-90 is preferred as the tiny turret of the BTR-80A is a little too small.
I don’t like the BTR-90 personally. Too heavy- it’s practically a wheeled IFV (in both versions- the original with the BMP-2 turret and the new one with KBP’s Bachka-U improved BMP-3M turret). That said, they’ve got several hundred BTR-80As (e.g. 100 ordered back in 2000) and only a handful of the more expensive 90s.
I agree with your priorities though would move
Heavy Army equipment (the current tank and AFV stocks are quite adequate for current tasks) To number 2 in the sense that I think the new bustle autoloaders for the tanks offer greater safety to the crew and should be retrofitted to existing tanks as quickly as possible. Also introduction of the BTR-T and the BMP-T fire support vehicle would be useful in some areas.
Refitting existing tanks would be an expensive job; perhaps it would be best for just a fraction of tanks in Chechnya, but really, they don’t seem to worry about it too much. The T-62M is so popular in Chechnya because of it’s four crew, it’s less cramped, and the ammo is single piece, making catastrophic explosions less likely. But even that’s over now, Chechnya is just IED-central like Iraq. They’re unlikely to do so unless they see a big armor war coming up soon.
[The army is doing pretty well with plans to create a professional army by 2007-08 and has been recieving BMP-3. BTR-90, Tunguska mobile AAA and T-80U tanks as well as aircraft. Pay has also increased and the conscripts are being paid regularly for the most part now.
I don’t know about BMP-3 or BTR-90 deliveries, but recently the Army has been getting more BTR-80As, the Tunguska-M1 was just accepted into service last year (existing Tunguska-Ms to be upgraded to M1 standard), and just the other day it was reported that for the first time in a decade (ie since 1993/4) new T-90 tanks were being delivered (the Russian Army isn’t buying more T-80Us, they prefer the T-90 back in 1997 as the ‘official’ tank, though they’re not getting rid of the 80Us). Then of course there are the Su-27SMs, Yak-130s, Mi-24PNs, etc. It’s slow going, but there’s definitely a positive trend building, especially since 2003.
The Navy is less of a priority but has still recieved new equipment in the form of new minesweepers, fast attack vessels, frigates and has plans to put the first of a new class of both SSN and SSBN to sea this year.
Aircraft are nice and everything but we shouldn’t forget that there are more things that Armed Forces services need to fight than just planes and helicopters, and these cost money too. 🙂
IMHO, the priority should be:
– infantry equipment and training
– Army aviation (helicopters)
– Air Force
– Navy
– Heavy Army equipment (the current tank and AFV stocks are quite adequate for current tasks)
Maybe they’re upgrading existing aircraft.
Definitely Lock On.
R-77PU? Don’t you mean R-77PD? (or RVV-AE-PD, whatever)
The AIM-120A has a max kinematic range at extreme speed and altitude of right around 80 NM.
148km? They’ve tested that?
If you’re trying to infer that the R-77 outranges the AIM-120… :rolleyes:
I understood it had a higher kinematic range than the AIM-120. Jane’s Air-Launched Weapons:
The propulsion system is reported to be a two-stage solid propellant motor giving the missile a range in the region of 75 km, and a snap-up/snap-down capability of 10 km (33,000 ft). The AA-12 has a probable maximum velocity of about M3.0. Higher speeds have been reported but these are thought to be unlikely because of the problems associated with radome heating rather than with motor performance.
As I understand it, AIM-120 range is in the region of 50km
:confused:
Of course, if the aircraft firing it has an older Soviet datalink, 50km is the absolute limit, but the same entry mentions a 100km datalink upgrade (undoubtedly fitted to recently exported aircraft).
The reduction if funding proportion was offset somewhat by the retiring of many types of aircraft and the closing of a lot of redundant bases, air defense missiles, and radars. Remember the PVO was mostly Su-15s, MiG-25s, MiG-23Ps, an obscene amount of SA-2/SA-3 units, and thousands of radar sites. The funding should’ve been increased somewhat, but the RuAF certainly doesn’t deserve all of the PVOs share.
Originally posted by Scooter
France would have to have the lead in any joint design.
That would be tpyically French.
Originally posted by GarryB
Very nice picture of the TOS-1 SOC, but considering its maximum range is 3.5km it is really a minefield breaching system (or bunker clearer/Gheto blaster system).🙂
It’s primary purpose is assault; mine field breaching, not so much.
Hey I posted that picture first. I demand credit! 🙂