If I knew it would get it I’d tender a £ 100 to buy it for the other half for Xmas.:D:D:D:D:D:D
🙂 Thanks ,i’ll pass the message on.
EDIT ,He has purchased it from IWM http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/
“FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/5 pounds, but it goes to a good cause.”
Nice one,
I’ve just looked at the site myself & it is well worth a really good look at.
For example I put in a couple of locally based squadrons & found a cracking air-to-air photo of a 613 Sqn P40 taken over moors near Doncaster. ( Photo’s of this sqn’s P40’s must be as rare as rocking horse muck, as this is the only one I’ve ever seen:D:D).
Hi nitromac,
Thank you for reminding us of this wonderful story – although its not the first time I have read about it, it is one that I do not tire of being retold.:)
I seem to recall seeing this either in an earlier thread or another web-site, but I recall that there is a painting of this episode, but the artist’s and web site name eludes me.
Either way, it is a great example of how an act of personal humanity & disregard of possible repercussions of Franz’s action can over-ride idealogy, even under the most trying circumstances – at anytime during the flight a second interception by another fighter could have easily sealed the fate of both aircraft, his actions being seen by his own side as trechary.
However the fact that both men have not only survived to tell the tale, but also to meet up after so long, makes this little bit of history that bit more special.
Thanks again
Rad:)
I`ll second that.
Probably the one aircraft I want to see in the air more than any other 🙂Pete
It’s probably been said before – why not put a couple of Merlins on the Beau & back engineer to a Mk II status? At least it would see the type with air under her wings again.:)
Then fly the it with the Mosquito as a pair.:D
I stand to be wrong, but you may be able to obtain a copy of this photo from either the IWM or RAFM archives – it’s just a thought:)
What instruments are they short off? cabin air scoops, are they the riveted on external jobbies for radio cooling, the cooling door below that or the internal ones in the top of the doorpost?
Tony, I’ll be honest- I am not sure, I am only appealing for the parts on the museum’s behalf & I have yet to get over to Donny to find out, hence the museum contact number for James – he is the museum project co-ordinator & has done the bulk of the work on the Cessna, so if you can help – he’ll be able to tell you what is needed.:)
Thank you for replying so quickly.
Rad
Just to go down the list is both sobering and thought provoking – it’s ironic to think that many of them did not see themselves as heroes, but were only doing their job.
To the Few I say this – Excuse my ignorance if I think you are heroes, Thank you for doing your job so well, without you our lives today would be unimagineable and If the debt we owe can only be paid by remembering what did for our future- I will do so with pride, gratitude and with interest!!!!!!!
I have quite a bit on this incident and the ORB does give the individual letters.
He was “Red 2” (Aircraft letter “C”) and Sgt J K Rodger was “Red 1” (Aircraft letter “A”) in a flight that had taken off at 14.15 on a convoy patrol. It was noted as a bad day for flying, with heavy rain and thunderstorms and ground mist with only 500yards viz max.
Sgt Smith was Sgt Philip Shaw Smith born in Grantham, England, on 8/9/1920 but emigrated with his family to New Zealand. Until November 1940 he was a Fireman with the Auckland Metropolitan Fire Board after which he enlisted in the RNZAF. I have a great deal more on him in his biog notes. He was not “Flt Sgt S Smith”.
Rodger’s aircraft crashed through a brick wall before effecting a forced landing causing him concussion and slight head injuries.
What is your interest, Radpoe/Spiteful?
Glad to be of service.
Thank you Andy,
I’m a member of Aeroventure at Doncaster, a friend of the 616 Squadron Association and I will always honour the wishes of a late & dear family friend who served with 616 – the last time I ever saw him he asked me ” please do one thing for me – never forget 616″.
I must take my hat off in admiration. I built the kit on which this model is based almost straight from the box & that took me over 6 months and mine doesn’t come near to this quality.
Amazing build- I wish I was half as good.
I think this :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobibutu/
was definitely one of, if not the best place in the world for wreks. A lot has since been recovered or scrapped but quite a lot is still there !
Laurent
I see what you mean, that there ” Betty ” & at least one of the Zero’s look like they would not take lot of effort to recover.
I was wondering if anyone had any further information on an accident in Nov 1942 where two Spitfire VI’s hit high ground on the IOW:
From http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/iowweb/iowc.html
01-11-42 BR186 Spitfire VI 616SQ Flew into ground Stenbury Down.F Sgt S Smith killed
01-11-42 BR174 Spitfire VI,616 Sq Flew into ground Stenbury Down.Pilot injuredI also found the link below to a survey of the area:
http://www.spanfarm.co.uk/Span-Farm-Wind-Turbine-Heritage-Statement.pdf
Thanks.
Does anyone know the individual letters for these two please?
Cheers Rad
Hello all
I work for one of the UK’s leading TV production companies (http://www.iwcmedia.co.uk) and we’re working with Discovery Channel on a series about aviation archaeology. We’re currently scouring the world looking for the most interesting wreck sites that combine fascinating back-stories with evocative remains. The end point is to photograph the wrecks – not tamper with them in any way.
I would really love to hear what people on this forum thought were the most impressive and interesting wreck sites they’ve come across, even if it was just a photo on the internet. Which wrecks sites would you be most interested in watching an hour-long documentary about the aircraft, the crew, the mission, the crash, etc?
We are especially interested in UK and US aircraft, although there is room to look at Luftwaffe, Japanese and Russian WWII era, and Russian cold war era too.
We are interested in any part of the world, from North Africa, to the Pacific islands.
Any and all suggestions would be gratefully accepted. Thanks very much!
What about the photo reconnicance B29 “Over Exposed ” in the Peak District?
Much of the wreck remains, its easily accesable, has an interesting history, but more poignient was the tragedy of the 13 men lost. Had the aircraft been just a few yards higher, the crash would not have happened.
Another possibilty ( albeit there are few remains in a museum, but I understand there may be a large chunk of main spar still buried ) is the Canadian crewed Halifax NA581 KW-U of 425 Squadron. The aircraft took off on 2/8/1944 from RAF Tholthorpe on an air test, but crashed following an engine fire near Blyth, Notts.
The sad irony is the crew were due to complete their tour and go home after the next raid, but passed a number of airfields which refused permission to land. The Halifax crashed with the loss of all crew less than 1 1/2 miles from RAF Worksop.
If you’d like to know a bit more about this one I will PM my phone number.
The Battle of Britain film is a never ending source of discussion here, photos, books, locations, posters, models are frequent topics.
Does anyone have other props (the film kind, not just the aeroplane kind) they’d like to share?
Is there anything else with film provenance still out there….uniforms, vehicles, etc?I’m not looking to buy, just curious.
I seem to remember a few years ago seeing a concrete 250kg german bomb at South Yorks Aircraft Museum / Aeroventure which may have been one of those used for a bomb dropping sequence.
When I get chance to go I’ll have a look if its still about.
Doncaster Aeroventure (http://www.aeroventure.org) is another museum which is sited in the remaining buildings of a former working airfield and is doing reasonably well.
That said the airfield had been closed down for some time prior to the museum taking on the site.
Doncaster Aeroventure (http://www.aeoventure.org) is another museum which is sited in the remaining buildings of a former working airfield and is doing reasonably well.
that said the airfield had been closed down for some time prior to the museum taking on the site.