So did the production line for the F-15C/D for the US Air Force a few decades ago. So did the production line for other aircraft never exported outside the US such as the B-2, F-117 etc. No comparison really.

No comparison?

You are aware that this a first in seventy years?
The P-51D didnt outproduce the F-86, who didnt outproduce the century fighters line, who didnt outproduce the F-4 Phantom, who didnt outproduce the F-15 Eagle…
If you said that by reason of political interference (no exports policy by example, thats a first for the primary USAF air defence fighter since the creation of the USAF) the Raptor production line was curtailed, that would be correct, but “not comparable”? On that you are wrong, a comparison with with its predecessors its eminently sensible.
The obvious question his why in the hell wasnt the Raptor allowed to be exported to Japan and South Korea, two allied countries who expressely asked for it? Because of security issues? If thats the answer then is a lousy one…

And what will i do if Typhoon wins?

I will run around with my pants on my head chuckling myself silly that is what!:D

Be afraid, be very afraid…

Originally Posted by PLA-MKII
The Western style of planning is culturally different from the eastern style – objectives are fixed at the beginning while in the East, we are willing to move the objective around a bit. Obviously, neither is “better” than the other but each has its benefits and costs. However, I think the JF-17 benefited from this immeasurably. Otherwise Pakistan would be taking delivery of the original Super 7 airframe at perhaps $20 million per plane.

The Eurofighter took 20 years from contract signing to production. The Swedish Gripen 14 and the Rafale 15 years. In comparison, the JF-17 took 10 years. We must be willing to continue doing things our way in all future weapons developments. We only have to see the handling of the F/A-18E/F, V-22, F-22 and F-35 programs to see how the West is losing competence.

Oh my, my.

Never get facts in front of a good argument…

Gripen Development contract – 30 June 1982
Second production Gripen (first Gripen for the Flygvapnet) first flight – 4 March 1993

Congratulations to LM (and a bit of a slap to Boeing).
Never quite understood why Boeing didnt offer the “Silent Eagle, the official reason, “they already have Eagles and want another type of airframe in case something goes wrong” his strange (to say the least).

Are the countries currently buying the F 16 expect to keep it for 30 to 40 years or is it just an interim solution?
Once the USAF no longer operate the type I hardly see LM making much upgrade and Oman will likely have to ask the Israeli for upgrades. I hope they are in good terms…

The USAF is planning to use the Viper at least till the late thirties.

Is not the question more of what will replace the F-16 in air defence? According to the report I’ve read, the deal price for 10 single seat and 2 dual seat F-16’s was $600 million ie $50 million per frame.

‘Announcing the deal in a 14 December contract notification, the US Department of Defense said Muscat will acquire 10 single-seat fighters and a pair of two-seat trainers under a deal worth $600 million.’

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/omani-f-16-deal-means-continued-wait-for-eurofighter-366030/
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The Omani Viper deal his not just 600 million.
The 600 million contract his between the US DOD and Lmartin for the aircrafts, a bit of logistical suport, manuals, etc (http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4684).
Its normal that part of the equipment (the most common being the engines) being “Government funded items” to have separate contracts.
We are going to see another contract between the US DOD and PW or GE, a few more contracts with smaller firms, etc, all derived of the Omani order.
On top of that add the FMS 3,75% fee, and whatever extras (weapons, extra engines, extra radars, training etc) that the Omanis might want and you could easily double that.
To have an idea we would have to see (we wont) the final contract between the US DOD and the Omani MOD, but this (http://www.dsca.mil/pressreleases/36-b/2010/Oman_10-40.pdf) will be undoutebly much closer to what the Omanis are going to pay.

So all, or the majority of Eurofighter are two seat like Block two Rhinos?

Since when all the Block II Rhinos are twin seaters?! You are aware that a big part of the US Navy Block II Rhinos are “E”´s, right?

Of course external stores are an issue, but not as much as an issue as a large RCS airframe plus external stores.

And you have the RCS of these two particular aircrafts?
How well the radar blockers on the SH compare with the S ducted intakes of the Typhoon at supersonic speeds when the blocker vanes are entirely open?
How well compares the FSS materials in their respective radar redomes?
Etc, etc, etc… Without RCS charts you are just speculating.

Jô and Quantum

Thanks for the photos (and by bringing this topic into aviation realm once again, the entire topic has been hijacked by Martian(s)).

Cheers 🙂