Gripen A/Bs are likely wired to carry Swedish unique licence-produced weapons.
Like Mavericks, AIM-120B´s and AIM-9L/M furnished by the USA? 🙂
On top of that join the american “Mk” series dumb bombs.
And yes, Denel pylons were part of the offset contracts established with the South African government.
Cheers
Sad news indeed, and only 23…
May he rest in peace.
the ags is only a varient of the 155mm. which is set to go on the new DDX – this is a 200 memter cruiser hull with a 18m beam. coming in around 11,500 tons
look how forward the ags is on the pic here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Uss_Zumwalt.jpg
Stan
One of the reasons (the biggest actually) why those Zumwalts are so big is that the AGS has nothing to do with a conventional 155mm gun. The entire system is simply huge in size and weight. The magazine, by itself, is the equivalent of 64 Mk41 strike lenght VLS. There´s no way that the AGS fits any variant of the Daring.
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Remember one is >M1 without reheat.
The other is a variable marketing term that is changed on average every 3 years.To stop this terrible Supercruise arguement you just have to ask which one your talking about “Supercruise” or “LockheedSuperCruiseMartin”.
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Jw
If we are discussing the “LockheedSuperCruiseMartin” we have also to ask the “Vintage year”, if its a 1998, thats one thing, or something like a 2005 “LSCM Vintage”. Two very diferent Vintages…
What are the odds of a Sea Gripen being developed? That would fit brazilian needs perfectly in my opinion.
Slightly better than North Korea being invited to be part of the JSF Team, but not by much! :dev2:
Fair enough
I may have over egged the pudding somewhat with Sqn ldr trenchard,
The errors particuarly the MAWS were intentional (caveat there may be unintentional errors in there but i hope not).
It was im afraid a bit of an experiment to see how long it wold take bluewings to repost this on the strategy page forums as a credible scource.
I will close the chapter on this post and I will in future refrain from trolling and endevour to be a respectable poster.
Cheers for that.
So if person does not rate typhoon – it must be bashing
No Lindermeyer
Myself , and i believe TMor even more, would be happy to believe in whatever you or “Trenchard” wrote IF…
There wasnt obvious errors on that text, errors no pilot would make.
You wont get a MAW notice of a simulated shot, because a pulse-doppler radar MAW needs something that is actually flying to detect…
Then, most of the claims are simply preposterous, the “active cancelation thingy” Klingon device, is, to put it bluntly, ridiculous.
Then there this small problem of something that you called the “official” RAF Forum, whats that? Not E-Goat certainly…
And of course, that a Royal Air Force officer would writte this “thing” in an “official” RAF forum. The Royal Air Force has sent 453 pilots to the ATLC, so he would be well protected by anonimity… NOT
That pilot, would be imediatly traced, and “beach slaped”…
So, we have a text written by an anonimous in an non existant “official” RAF Forum, that was erased by some naughty moderators, with factual technical errors and some pretty preposterous claims, and this was found out by a lurker who in is first post here, in Key publishing submits this “jewel” and starts the text with “Dare2 maybe this interset you”. Our “Daring” coleague by is own admission has an “anger management” issue, a text like this is bit like adding fire to gasoline.
So, yes, if you want to call this “bashing” (your own words) i am not going to chalenge your assertion.
This was a beautiful story, 100% based on French fantasies about the Rafale.
Quite a clever writing job. 😀
TMor, nice to have you back.
Cheers
maybe this interset you
From a RAF blog – was link from e goat – official RAF Forum
-yesterday i copy some text as i could not make link work – but could not post intil today
big suprise the moderator remove link to blog and the blog is gone
pilot is SQN LDR Trenchard
The exercise was a blue team interception of a Strike packages Top cover
The 2 flights consisted of 4x typhoons & 4x rafale.We were acting as an F14 flight (no mention of whose but ..) acting as CAP for a strike group. We were conducting active sweeps the rafales had AWACS support.
In the first engagement the AWACS vectored them into our 6 position. We never heard or saw them coming. Obviously vectored by the AWACS they made a completely passive attack at long range. Those MICA are a serious threat – the MAW system completely failed to give us any warning of a launch.
In the second engagement the Rafales were (simulating) only WVR heat seekers and for BVR had to use RH.
We did not get the result we wanted – we broke as soon as we heard the RWR and turned into them, But we just couldn’t detect them, that SPECTRA is really some thing as soon as they go active with that system the aircraft just vanishes of the scope.
Once we got into WVR it all went to pieces – we just couldn’t match the Rafales agility, If you turned with it we bled off to much air speed and the Rafale out accelerated us.
Our one ill was more down to a screw up by Frenchie than skill on our part.It appears that yet again the RAFs been lumbered at 5x the cost with another BAE lemon.
Personally I say save a fortune on the F35 and fly the Rafale off the carriers. For our likely opponents its more than adequate, and maybe we can ditch the great white elephant known as Typhoon
Disappointed and disillusioned is how best to describe the squadron post exercise.
1 – How is the MAW suposed to give warning of a simulated shot?
2 – So, the Rafale out-acelerates a Typhoon?! In such a way that it becames relevant in WVR when both sides are using wide angle IR AAM´s?!! Right…
3 – The “active stealth” klingon device just made an official entry into the ATLC world?
Blimey warn the JG71, their AN/APG-65 are hawfully good! And by the way, the AN/APG-68(V9) of the Hellenic Air Force are even better,
Trenchard is dead for quite some time. Leave the poor man alone, he deserves it.
As I have just about zero interest in upside down Flymo’s you’ll have to enlighten me. I’m afraid I missed that one.
Stevo was pointing a case in wich “necessity” (also known as the Falklands War) forced a completely new capability to be inducted with lightning speed.
Westland started the first studies of what would became the AEW Sea King in May of 1982, and by August two of them were “going south” in the HMS Illustrious!
frankly whatever earlier post said this report is the most precise we have with quoted named persons. For the first time you can hear bout specific detail of the FAB evaluation…I don’t think we ever had something like that before.
It was mostly PR claims from boeing, dassault and saab and then rumors if you take some distance.
And one of those names is (IMO) credible, Pedro Paulo Resende. He has some very good connections in the Brasilian military. He was for a very long time JANES correspondent in Brasil.
That doesnt mean he´s always correct/right, etc, no one is, it means that i think that he has some very, very good sources in Brasil…
Nice chap, i am owing him a bottle of Port for quite some time. 😮
I KNOW WHY, WHO WHEN AND WHERE. Now that’s even tastier. 😀
Now guys expect more GOOD news and more trolling from this forum ghost.
Good for you.
Now, have a beer.
Cheers
Ah, finnaly friday, thank god! Working week is through!
Here’s my personal favourite
Still nothing about this exercise in the international press? Only the French briefing so far?
We should open a topic about beer in the “General Discussion” forum!
TGIF
Being a bit lazy today, i hope you dont mind asking where does that beer cames from (yep, i know, there´s something called Google :o)
Well in this case the Rafale were at disadvantage since their AAMs were “degraded” and i don’t think the Typhoons were emulating Fulcrums. 😀
Why not? What do you think that the emulated threat was? What is the main possible threat that the UAE has to worry?
Yes, that threat uses the Fulcrum…
For all we know it might be the RAFALE that was the red team, and they could be handicaped (on the second flight they were), or NOT. We really dont know.
Yes, the Adla Rafales might very well have smashed the RAF Typhoons, and every one else, but without the ROE, we really dont know.
Cheers
Have a nice X-Mas btw a Mirage 2000 HUD scoring a kill on the second best after F-22 looks a little desordely by modern standards.
And a photo of a Phantom called “Rafale Eater” is what? 😉
Can we take any conclusion of those two photos? No we cant…
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