NewforestU-859 Was carrying uranium oxide also? This is news to me. Thanks.No, I didn’t say this!
I’m sorry I don’t know the answer to your questions Newforest. Newforest your post is very intriguing to me.I saw a documentary where a commercial outfit was trying to do a submarine salvage with a minisub. They were hunting for German gold. There were containers that they said were filled with mud or sand that they were handling very carelessly. I think there was rubber and tin (in raw form). They were unclear what the substance was in the containers so they just called it mud or sand. I was wondering at the time that I saw this documentary if it was uranium oxide or if the substance was tin. I don’t know if it was the documentary I have posted below or not.I too saw a documentary about a sub salvage and this was in the South Atlantic, I can’t remember the cargo!
U-864: Hitler’s Last Secret
*TV-G
January 18 at 10:00 PM ET/PT
Deep in the icy waters off of Norway lies one of the last great secrets of the Second World War—the German submarine U-864. Sixty years after it was lost, the remotely controlled underwater vehicles of a Norwegian salvage team inspected the submarine’s wreck, discovering 80 tons of deadly mercury. Now that the wreck has been disturbed, the team races to lift the toxic cargo off the seabed and ensure that Hitler’s deadly last secret is made safe once and for all.It sounds like U-864 was carrying uranium oxide also.?? Was it? I didn’t say so and can’t see any evidence.
So would that make three or more submarines loaded with uranium bound or sunk on the way to Japan? Very interesting.
I was under the impression that despite enrichment a delivery system was also an issue to the Japanese for a fission bomb. From what I understand their alternative method was to use balloon bombs, rockets, and a submarine launched bomber that was originally intended to bomb the Panamá Canal to deliver uranium to the mainland. I think they also had planned on trying to use some of the uranium as a scorched earth policy as on some other outlying Islands to try to ball down the potential invasion.
Do you think they would have wanted to use the V2’s to deliver an atomic weapon? The U-195 carried V2’s and mercury. It is also possible that the U-195 and the U-219 had cargoes of mercury.
A very useful index below:
NewforestU-859 Was carrying uranium oxide also? This is news to me. Thanks.No, I didn’t say this!
I’m sorry I don’t know the answer to your questions Newforest. Newforest your post is very intriguing to me.I saw a documentary where a commercial outfit was trying to do a submarine salvage with a minisub. They were hunting for German gold. There were containers that they said were filled with mud or sand that they were handling very carelessly. I think there was rubber and tin (in raw form). They were unclear what the substance was in the containers so they just called it mud or sand. I was wondering at the time that I saw this documentary if it was uranium oxide or if the substance was tin. I don’t know if it was the documentary I have posted below or not.I too saw a documentary about a sub salvage and this was in the South Atlantic, I can’t remember the cargo!
U-864: Hitler’s Last Secret
*TV-G
January 18 at 10:00 PM ET/PT
Deep in the icy waters off of Norway lies one of the last great secrets of the Second World War—the German submarine U-864. Sixty years after it was lost, the remotely controlled underwater vehicles of a Norwegian salvage team inspected the submarine’s wreck, discovering 80 tons of deadly mercury. Now that the wreck has been disturbed, the team races to lift the toxic cargo off the seabed and ensure that Hitler’s deadly last secret is made safe once and for all.It sounds like U-864 was carrying uranium oxide also.?? Was it? I didn’t say so and can’t see any evidence.
So would that make three or more submarines loaded with uranium bound or sunk on the way to Japan? Very interesting.
I was under the impression that despite enrichment a delivery system was also an issue to the Japanese for a fission bomb. From what I understand their alternative method was to use balloon bombs, rockets, and a submarine launched bomber that was originally intended to bomb the Panamá Canal to deliver uranium to the mainland. I think they also had planned on trying to use some of the uranium as a scorched earth policy as on some other outlying Islands to try to ball down the potential invasion.
Do you think they would have wanted to use the V2’s to deliver an atomic weapon? The U-195 carried V2’s and mercury. It is also possible that the U-195 and the U-219 had cargoes of mercury.
A very useful index below:
NewforestMaybe got banned from Cornwall?:D
NewforestAnyone knows where to find pictures or videos of the airstrips which are used for the support flights for the Dakar rally? I searched the net but nothing comes up, apart from some old pics at the other site.Must be a great sight: Antonovs, Herks, ATR’s and the like landing and take off at those dusty desert airstrips.Tillerman.
You’ll be lucky! I think the airstrips must be at the end of each stage as the aircraft are always in the background shot which means that stage ends are planned to be next to the aircraft. Would make sense. With the limited amount of coverage that Eurosport give this on TV every day, we are lucky to see a helicopter shadow. Check the Eurosport forum for complaints about limited coverage about any part of the race!
NewforestAnyone knows where to find pictures or videos of the airstrips which are used for the support flights for the Dakar rally? I searched the net but nothing comes up, apart from some old pics at the other site.Must be a great sight: Antonovs, Herks, ATR’s and the like landing and take off at those dusty desert airstrips.Tillerman.
You’ll be lucky! I think the airstrips must be at the end of each stage as the aircraft are always in the background shot which means that stage ends are planned to be next to the aircraft. Would make sense. With the limited amount of coverage that Eurosport give this on TV every day, we are lucky to see a helicopter shadow. Check the Eurosport forum for complaints about limited coverage about any part of the race!
NewforestNo replies, no rocket scientists or nuclear scientists here! Also, understandably, no marine historians here as no answers to my question concerning U-859.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66542
This U-boat contained thirty one tons of mercury and the cargo was salvaged in 1973. More interesting is the fate of the cargo of the U-234. This U-boat was loaded with ten containers of radioactive uranium oxide (U235), an essential ingredient of an atomic bomb. The voyage commenced two months before Germany’s surrender and the destination was Japan. However the sub. surrendered to the U.S. and the cargo was unloaded at Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Interestingly when Washington produced a manifest of the cargo unloaded, it was 78 tonnes short of the amount that had been loaded two months earlier in Germany. There has never been an explanation of where the uranium went.
Whilst on the subject of technology transfer, V-2 weapons and the Me.163 were also transported to Japan.
NewforestNo replies, no rocket scientists or nuclear scientists here! Also, understandably, no marine historians here as no answers to my question concerning U-859.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66542
This U-boat contained thirty one tons of mercury and the cargo was salvaged in 1973. More interesting is the fate of the cargo of the U-234. This U-boat was loaded with ten containers of radioactive uranium oxide (U235), an essential ingredient of an atomic bomb. The voyage commenced two months before Germany’s surrender and the destination was Japan. However the sub. surrendered to the U.S. and the cargo was unloaded at Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Interestingly when Washington produced a manifest of the cargo unloaded, it was 78 tonnes short of the amount that had been loaded two months earlier in Germany. There has never been an explanation of where the uranium went.
Whilst on the subject of technology transfer, V-2 weapons and the Me.163 were also transported to Japan.
NewforestJust spotted AN-12 UR-CCP presumably chartered by ELF.
NewforestJust spotted AN-12 UR-CCP presumably chartered by ELF.
NewforestAs long as any new material can be proven to meet or exceed the original spar material then there should be no problem other than the immense cost in doing so..!
But you’re using common sense! Take an extreme nonsensical example, if a World War One wooden spar was replaced by a metal tube, this would be ‘outside the original specification’. Presumably this is why the US have the successfull ‘Experimental’ category.
NewforestHi There,
Hope that’s of some use!
Paul
Thanks Tartan!
Oh PMN! Shame you left the guy’s jeans in the picture above the port wheel!:D
NewforestJust noticed that there are no U.K. entries, is this right, what has happened?
And apologies to the English riders/drivers I overlooked, Round, Rochelle, Hayward, Extance, Broome, Malone, Askey, Dickinson, Myers and Walker.:o
NewforestJust noticed that there are no U.K. entries, is this right, what has happened?
And apologies to the English riders/drivers I overlooked, Round, Rochelle, Hayward, Extance, Broome, Malone, Askey, Dickinson, Myers and Walker.:o
NewforestGreat first photo, even better second! What program is Elements 3?:confused:
Newforest2 were quickly caught on the airfield but the other man managed to get home and was got there.
Where I am sure the police were waiting to feel his collar again!:D
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