Seems it dropped into Boscombe Down first.
Seemed to have acquired a faster Spitfire!
Pilot confirmed to me today as J R.
It is universal knowledge within the inner historic community.
ZD254 huh ?
The truck was driven by 446/56- GH2 ( Drivers licence number) and they ended up at map reference Long, 48568 Lat.68788.
All clear now?
I understand your reservations, but there are valid reasons for the process, mainly that having the identity of an aircraft, and some components ( slim but robust provenance) faciltates the process to count as a rebuild in the eyes of the CAA, as opposed to a new build. The different regulatory regime and added costs of the latter classification might well preclude such projects ever getting underway.
Spitfire AB910 of the RAF memorial flight is a stalwart of the display scene and has been for 50 years. whereas Spitfire EN570 soon to emerge from Biggin Hill is the DNA of an excavated wreck, and a few components are included in the new-build airframe.
The essential point is that there is no deception, one is the Spitfire it always was, and one is mainly new components, but connected to, and perpetuating the identitiy and the story of an airframe once considered lost.
If everyone knows, and everyone understands the process, I personally don’t see a downside.
It suprises me that there is expressed here something close to weary disappointment that we might have to put up with some Hurricane reconstruction/recreations based on the identities and some parts of these relics.
It must be obvious that 80 years on, this is how new flying warbird projects have to be, since there are (probably) no more essentially intact airframes to be discovered. We should consider ourselves lucky that we have in the UK the skills and financial backers to keep putting these projects back in the air, because there are very few countries where this happens.
I look forward to seeing a flying Mosquito at some stage soon, fully aware it has an all-new wooden airframe, a fact that will not remotely taint my enjoyment of the spectacle. Because it is a Mosquito. And it is flying !
Ah, many thanks, I had forgotten that was a ‘subscribe-to’ group.
Fascinating stuff ! I wonder if you have any other links for this. I have had a quick poke around, and can find no other refererence right now.
Maybe you guys could find a suitable location to watch the flypast together, and if there is time, maybe have a punch-up as well !
”They are ALL Hercules” (Thwack !)
” (Oooof! ) No , they have only been in service 33 years. I am not even going to look!”
Etc, Etc
E3x C-130J Hercules Flypasts – 14th June 2023:
01 • 10:00 – Depart RAF Brize Norton
02 • 10:25 – National Memorial Arboretum, Alrewas
03 • 10:34 – RAF Cosford
04 • 11:22 – RAF Valley
05 • 11:48 – FS Aldergrove
06 • 12:51 – RAF Lossiemouth (with Typhoon escort)
07 • 14:08 – RAF Leeming
08 • 14:10 – RAF Topcliffe
09 • 14:23 – Beverley
10 • 14:35 – RAF Waddington
11 • 14:38 – RAF College Cranwell
12 • 14:58 – Cambridge Airport
13 • 15:04 – RAF Mildenhall
14 • 15:15 – Colchester Garrison
15 • 16:22 – MOD Boscombe Down
16 • 16:25 – Salisbury Plain (West Down Camp)
17 • 16:32 – MOD Lyneham
18 • 16:36 – Royal Wootton Bassett
19 • 16:39 – Defence Academy of the UK, Shrivenham
20 • 16:43 – Dalton Barracks, Abingdon
21 • 16:51 – RAF Halton
22 • 16:55 – RAF High Wycombe
23 • 17:05 – RAF Brize Norton
I got to know Joe Austin, an engineer at Personal Plane Services for decades, and who oversaw the conversion of this Indian Air Force two seater back to single seat. I dont recall it being done before or since, and he said he nearly had a nervous breakdown over it !
The irony is that now, as a WW2 vet with combat victories over 109’s and 190’s it would be a huge draw in the rides business.
Time to convert it back, perhaps…
5 Royal Netherlands Air Force Apaches and a following flight of 4 Chinooks have just passed over Rickmansworth, heading into Northolt for fuel.
They are back from the 14 day NATO excercise at Carlisle,
Not sure if that would work.
The guy who runs that page as his personal ‘blog’ is pretty chummy with at least one of the Spitfire rides outfits, who might get a bit sniffy about somebody advertising a flight at less than the ‘market rate’.
If you just named a price, at an attractive discount over the usual £2,750, say £2,500 you might get a bite.
The Griffon Spit that upended on take-off in France a few years ago also broke its spar. I wonder if the added weight of the airframe and higher momentum takes more of a toll than the lighter Merlin types.
Broussard just came back heading east now. Got the Binos on it, and colour scheme looks like G-CBGL.
Nothing on FR24.
Back west 12.27. It IS G-HOUR, in a new colour scheme, with a blue stripe !
9.40 am Broussard over Little Chalfont heading west. Could not see the reg, but probably G-HOUR ( Bremont watches) which is based at White Waltham.
The Lancaster has drawn huge public attention from the 80th anniversary Dambuster flypast, which must have been seen by millions,starting at RAFM museum Hendon, then flypasts at RAF High Wycombe, Halton, Wyton and 28 (!) historic sites across Lincs.
I watched from the Coombe Hill Monument, above the Aylesbury Vale, and it rumbled in past Chequers ( PM House) right over the top of us, cranked in a right hand turn towards Halton, and then away, with that classic profile receding into the evening sky, and the low growl echoing across the landscape, a powerful evocation of the endeavours of 617 Squadron, on that May evening, 1943.