I just love Obama-opponants. One calls him a fascist, the other one calls him a socialist. Consistency isn’t really a strongpoint of the Obama-paranoiacs.

But don’t worry ATFS. Whatever Obama will take away from you, I’m sure you’ll never give up your fear. Not even after your self-defense arsenal of assault rifles have been pried from your cold dead hands :rolleyes:

Please sir, do tell me why a Fascist can’t be a Socialist, or vice-versa?

Mussolini and Hitler were both decidedly socialist when It came to their countries economies.

And may I make a note, I at no time called him a Fascist, I was simply refering to a point about the power of governments and why our constitution is written the way it is. I would not like any Fascist, no matter what side they came from.

unless it originates within her family ?

Actually, the problem was she fired someone that wouldn’t fire a family member (through marriage).

And I really don’t want to repeat myself, but as was found, she broke no laws. Technically and “ethically”, she should have started an Independent investigation in order to clear this matter up, to make the firing seem impartial.

However, she is not a politician, she does not have a big machine behind her and she felt she needed to get rid of this guy, who btw was a state police officer who had been caught tasering his own son, drinking on the job more than once, illegally hunting etc etc……

I say here here, stop with this independent BS and get done what needs to get done, and stop wasting time and taxpayers dollars, Period.

If the modern Government Bureaucracy moved twice as fast as it does now, we could actually get some things done, hell we probably wouldn’t know what to do with ourselves.

You do not trust your own country do you? The voters will decide. 😀

No, hence is why the Constitution was written to limit the power of government, so a bunch of greedy, ignorant fools can’t “get what they want”.

Someone said of the US recently “Ignorance is our most expensive commodity”. Bout sums it up.

Nah…he just cannot bare that USA will be ruled for the next 4 years by Black Muslim Terrorist who hates america:dev2::dev2::diablo:

Honestly, I don’t care If he was the last white politician, there’s still no way I’d vote for this guy, his past speaks for itself. And quite frankly, the fact that we aren’t SUPPOSED to look at his past gives me the ONLY REASON I need to distrust the man.

Oh and btw, why don’t y’all (thats my redneck speakin) read Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, it shows that a Fascist Dictatorship doesn’t always need to use force in order to control the citizens. Ironically enough, he was a student of Orwell’s, whose book 1984 showed what we all think a Fascist Dictatorship looks like, one who kills its population and controls through violence.

Finally, one of the most famous lines ever uttered, in many different languages…… “It could never happen here.”

When will we learn?

“Skinny fire” = reduced afterburner IRS?

Maybe to our unaided eyes, but to any modern Russian, American or European IR missle, i doubt it would make a difference, hell, looks like I could still cook 1000 weenies in that flame 😀

If, that was true China would surpass Russia in Air Superiority Fighters. So, no the PAK-FA is not the production version of the Su-35.

But wouldn’t it be ohhhhh so funny?

Really though, I doubt it is. The Russians have had enough time to develop a new airframe and whatnot. Saying that, I would never count the Su-35 out…..im sure it will be a hell of an airplane, like the rest of the Flanker series.

But dam, would it not be funny if the PAK-FA ended up bein the Su-35? ;p; 🙂

Now, while I’m not a big fan of guns myself, I totally understand the reason for having a weapon (especially the hunting ones) in the US.

To further add to that Frank, I would also like to say ownership of firearms is a right guaranteed to us by the Constitution, that pesky little piece of paper no one seems to read anymore. (I mean Americans, there’s no need for anyone else to understand it, unless you care to move here 🙂 )

Now I know this will come across as strange to most people, even to a lot in the US. But the Constitution (by that I mean the Constitution and the Bill of Rights) was written and designed to protect the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the people from a Government gone bad. Actually, it was designed so the Government couldn’t do anything to impede on ones life, but since no one reads it anymore there have been many, many encroachments.

The fact of the matter is, the founding fathers who wrote the Constitution did not trust any form of Government and wanted to limit its powers as much as they could. The 2nd amendment is written into the Bill of Rights specifically, as are the other 9, to guarantee these rights. And as anyone who has studied history knows, an armed populace is a lot harder to make subservient than an unarmed one, and that was the whole point of the 2nd amendment. It wasn’t written so we crazy rednecks can go shootin at tin cans or blow away some rounds, but in order to protect our own personal liberty.

Personally, at this point in time I dont stand on either side of the issue. This is a heartfelt, painful issue that can not simply be decided by any legislature. I for one believe it is up to the person, with ample moral support from family and doctors. The question arises when someone is incapable of making a decision for themselves, or unable to communicate their feelings/needs. For this instance is one where I go completely against my usual judgement and feel there should be lengthy investigations into the decisionmakers, whether they be family or doctors. This shouldn’t be an issue that lends itself an answer in a quick manner.

However, my main problem with the whole idea though is, where do we stop? Where as a society, a culture, stop allowing people to literally off themselves. How sick must one be? This case hits home for me, as I had an aunt with MS. I grew up watching her body slowly decaying. She lived for almost 40 years with the disease, being diagnosed at 18 years old. When she decided it was time, she left us and was at peace.

My question is, living with this disease for 40 years, could/should my aunt have decided, at lets say 28 years old, that she no longer wanted to live? It’s obviously up to the individual, but when do we, our society, need to stand in, or should we at all? I feel there comes a time when we should, but who can make that judgement?

This is one of the many slippery slopes I believe exist within the lawmaking process, and therefore should be treated with the utmost scrutiny.

USELESS………….all i have to say