Whilst chopping the wings off a nice old aeroplane always seems a shame, I have to concede that that is possibly the most brilliant thing I have ever seen….. I wonder if an old L118 Electra fuselage could fit through the bridges on the Coventry canal 😀
Oh no 😡
This cropped up a while ago in the newsletter of the BMFA (British Model Flying Assoc.), apparently the publishers of this Spitfire thing had approached them for advice or some kind of endorsement. The BMFA (IIRC..) replied offering help and support if the magazine was to use a more sensible design (thinking more along the lines of an electric, lightly loaded high wing ‘parkflyer’)… unfortunately the publishers totally ignored the offer of advice and support and went down this rediculous spitfire route alone :rolleyes:
To be honest quite apart from the danger of these ‘Spitfires’ in inexperienced hands, a great opportunity may have been lost to get new people into the hobby.
From my perspective as a model flyer (in the rare gaps between university work and playing with the real thing), I have been flying since 2000 fairly frequently and yet I would still not consider myself ready to fly the model in question. (That is why my big Mustang is finished but still on a shelf waiting for my skills to catch up with my confidence…. re. Piper Cub vs. tree fiasco 😮 )
Hello Tony…
Take a look at http://www.classicflight.com
The ‘menu’, for want of a better word, currently consists of a DC3, Percival Prentice, Dragon Rapide x2, Twin Pioneer or DH Devon for pleasure flights, or a traffic jam avioding arival at a variety of airshows!
Fascinating pictures!
The only yellow engine i have seen before is the similarly coloured ‘Sea Griffon’ from a fast patrol boat, displayed next to the Walrus at Hendon- I will see if i have some pictures.
Whilst I have great respect and admiration for what has been acheived at Cosford, this does strike me as ridiculous. It does rather beg the question, WILL THE ‘FUTURE GENERATIONS’ REFERRED TO BE ALLOWED TO INSPECT THE INTERIOR IN YEARS TO COME, IF NOT, WHY BOTHER PRESERVING IT?
Ok, calm down, caps lock off, but this sort of thing does wind me up. Aircraft are objects whose history has been experienced from both inside and out. If you just get to look at a shiny exterior it may as well be a fibreglass replica or airfix kit. To even begin to understand the full story of an aircraft a visitor surely needs to explore inside, sit on seats, carefully inspect the cockpit, smell the smells.
Having taken a back seat and then read the responses to the thread I now feel less sure about the comments I made earler on. Whilst threads such as these can get a little heated and uncomfortable, the overall effect is educational and do serve as an ‘eye opener’. Having fairly recently gone through the trial of A-level physics I do have an appreciation of how ‘radiation’, particularly in its containment, is not a level playing field and so the explanation of the type of radiation invoved by those with a better understanding is very useful.
This said I stand by my statement that the exploration of the inside of an aircraft is vital to ‘understanding’ it, but I was probably a little wide of the mark GOING ALL CAPITAL LETTERS and whining before fully understanding the facts.
Conscience clear now, cheers, carry on the debate 🙂
I went to the Fort worth airshow in Texas on me travels and they had an F14 there and it was the first time I had seen one, man what a machine we definatly need to get one over here maybe legends 😉
One of those ideas that at first make you go what??? 😮 , but thinking about it, with a little help from the Fighter Collecton, you could have the ultimate Grumman Cat flypast!
Cosford has an early one, and Hendon has a nice 617sqn example.
Cheers 🙂
I wrote to the RAF Museum at Cosford last year, asking for access to their Hastings:
“I regret that I must disappoint you. Our prime task is to preserve objects in the collection for future generations in their original condition as far as possible. While access to check for deterioration and to implement necessary conservation measures is essential, we do not permit routine access which would inevitably add to the fair wear and tear already accumulated in service. There are also significant health and safety hazards in some older aircraft, including the radiation from aging luminous-painted markings, which in an enlightened and increasingly litigious age impede us. Finally, current staffing levels do not enable us to provide the level of supervision needed to meet this type of request. I hope you will understand why this policy is in place.”
Whilst I have great respect and admiration for what has been acheived at Cosford, this does strike me as ridiculous. It does rather beg the question, WILL THE ‘FUTURE GENERATIONS’ REFERRED TO BE ALLOWED TO INSPECT THE INTERIOR IN YEARS TO COME, IF NOT, WHY BOTHER PRESERVING IT?
Ok, calm down, caps lock off, but this sort of thing does wind me up. Aircraft are objects whose history has been experienced from both inside and out. If you just get to look at a shiny exterior it may as well be a fibreglass replica or airfix kit. To even begin to understand the full story of an aircraft a visitor surely needs to explore inside, sit on seats, carefully inspect the cockpit, smell the smells.
Hi Beny, did you get a look through the big panoramic window on the VIP Dakota, does it have an interior fitted?
In the ‘physically possible but rather tricky to arrange’ category…
Shackleton, Swordfish, Spitfire, any classic jet, any seaplane
For a favourite it would have to be the Swordfish due to family connections again.
Sounds painful 😮
I blame the acoustics in the back of a Dakota :p
If you would like to work with a large fleet of very busy airworthy historic aircraft (of all shapes and sizes- including ex Swiss air force Vampire/Venoms) have a look at http://www.classicflight.com.
I have copied your message to the engineers 🙂
Happy Birthday Stewart 🙂
Target tugs make terrible presents, the stripes always show through the wrapping paper 😀 -ruins the surprise….
Hard to disagree with the historic warbird top three, but special mention should also go to whoever flew the Kennet Aviation Skyraider at Legends and Elvington, it is amazing what one of those things can do when not carrying its own weight again in fuel and weapons!