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  • in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2246609
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    Maybe if there is some bomber version based on j20. But somehow i think next chinese striker wont be based on an existing design.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2246864
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    Number of flying prototypes cant exactly correlate to speeding up the whole development prOcess. Especially when there are extensive changes involved in different prototypes. 2016 might be achievable for some sort of low rate initial productioj but initial service usually takes two years later than that. So around 2018 or so.

    in reply to: Bunker buster bomb, what if the bunker made from metal #2247769
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    there various kinds of concrete. the graphic itself says 60 m penetration is for 5000 psi concrete. That’s your standard reinforced concrete. Various high stress componends on bridges like girders are often made out of 10.000 psi concrete. The graphics says pentration through such concrete drops to just 8 meters. Of course, that sort of concrete is several times more expensive as it needs not only added materials but specialized mixing, requiring more time and manpower. That being said, i suspect it is still cheaper than making, transporting and assembling a shield made of steel of equivalent in protection.

    There are mixes that offer over 10.000 psi resistance and, you would have guessed it right, are used for bunkers. There have been news some years ago that Iranians were developing concrete mixes few times stronger than the 10.000 psi mix.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2248336
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    Actually, production per year over a longer time period of sustained production is likely to be more. It is not likely 2016 production will immediately jump to 13 airframes. So it is at fault to just take the 55 airframe figure and divide it by 4 years.

    Something like this is much more likely:
    2016: 4-6 airframes
    2017: 10-12 airframes
    2018: 15-20 airframes
    2019: 20-24 airframes

    Plus maybe the author really meant 55 airframes by the end of 2020, not by 2020, meaning end of 2019. In which case the ramp up might be closer to su35 programme.

    Anyhow, long term production average is surely to be closer to 20 airframes rather than just 13-14.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2254991
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    Don’t all su-27 have the irst in the middle? literally most of flankers ever produced?

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2256288
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    Unit procurement price for rafale c, as per french parliament report, was 42 million euros without VAT. That was in 2005. Assuming no drop in price due to better manufacture process and assuming inflation in today’s euros that’s some 49,7 million. Converted in dollars that’s some 62 million dollars. Also assuming f35a prices us dod is paying are without any tax, that’s roughly close to 50% of latest f35a price (one with basic nonrecurring systems and refit cost). Not really 85 planes instead of 37 but still considerably cheaper.

    As f35a price drops, by 2019 the difference may get closer to Rafale being 60-70% of f35a pricetag. Seems doubtful it would ever get to more than 70%.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2257341
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    we don’t have much details. So start of development may be refering to start of engineering phase on the defined project for the prototype. if so, 2024 is quite realistic for serial production. since they’re talking about the project and its projected goals year and a half or two years earlier than 2016 – it sounds as if they’re already doing the preliminary computer concept design phase.

    Full development of c17 was greenlighted in december 1985. There were alredy 5 prototypes flying by end of 1992. One could say that further airframes in 1993 and later were already serial production. Using the same timeframe and same production rate as c17, russian airlifter beginning full development say in mid 2016 would have nearly 10 prototype and preproduction airframes by end of 2023. and could be starting serial (mass) production in 2024.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2257776
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    Nope, but maybe this helps:

    http://www.catic.cn/indexPortal/home/index.do?cmd=goToChannel&cid=746&columnid=1914&cpid=1653&columnType=102&likeType=view&ckw=ATAM&lang=US&dataid=4294#

    That’s for pl-12, though. For pl-15 one needs to improvise a little, using the available j20 imagery with opened bomb bay and visible missiles. As far as it could be observed, the body length and diameter remained the same (nosecone is a little bit different) so specs of pl-12 can be used. As for the new fins – you’ll have to do them on your own, using the j20 imagery with pl-15 missiles.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2257799
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    also, paralay, that drawing of 31001 shows missiles with clipped fins inside the plane. no such missiles are known. both the fc31 models and the actual missiles in j20 have fins that do not fold. furthermore, 310001 shows basically an amraam sized missile. pl12 and future pl15 use the same body – one which is 2 cm wider than amraam and some 30ish cm longer.

    in reply to: Russian Space and Missiles thread #5 #1788280
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    It would be a bit less confusing if the term “battery” was used when translating the system organization into English language based SAM system nomenclature.
    Also, number of targeting radars is really important here, number of launchers much less so.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2261038
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    USAF had a very clear intent with F-35, it had to carry 2×2000 lbs bombs internally for hardened targets,
    it was the overriding priority.
    whats the intent with J-31 ?

    F-35 was a government ordered plane, with Army’s requirements. FC-31 is a private venture with the manufacturer deciding what the requirements should be.

    We should really wait to get past this demonstrator stage and see at least the prototype of the actual combat variant – there may be some differences there.

    Length wise, the bomb bays seen on the demonstrator and missile arrangement seen on the models suggest bomb bay long enough for staggered placement of pl-12. Since that’s a 4 meter missile in itself, total length of bomb bay allowing for staggered stowage should be 20-40 cm more. Frankly, i still think that bomb bay is just too large for its own good. For a fighter of that size/class, it seems too excessive. Who knows what tradeoffs had to be made to fit all that in. But, like I said, one should really wait for the proper prototype.

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2262690
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    Quite peculiar they want antenna of that height but one that’s quite narrow. Height wise, even if it is VHF radar it seems excessive for early warning role. For more precise tracking and possibly a firing solution, on the other hand… Azimuth resolution seems quite poor though. Almost as if the antenna is meant to be used with another radar, possibly one having much greater azimuth resolution but much poorer altitude resolution.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2263388
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    was there ever official disclosure of f-35’s ferry range? I can’t find it, so i guess that’s still secret…

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2264393
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    so only engine nozzles, tails and intakes will differ from f22 now. still, looks better than current 31001 demonstrator.

    even if it finds its way into plaaf/planaf, it wont be replacing jh7. there should be enough j7 or j8 left to be replaced. i cant imagine it will go into attack regiments.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2264404
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    Yep, glide bombs are dime a dozen nowadays. Doesn’t look it it has any sort of special guidance either, save for (probable) satnav/ins. Plus it can’t yet be confirmed PLAAF actually has those bombs, it could be an airshow model plane. We’ll see more in the coming days, i guess.

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