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  • in reply to: RBL Replica Spitfire #1150901
    Icare9
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    The major focus of the Legion’s communications is to raise awareness of its work today – especially for the younger Service Community. But, as an icon of WW2, the replica focuses the public’s mind away from this message and onto the past. This was borne out by the events it attended in 2009 – which were in the main retrospective celebrations.

    No concession there, is there?
    So, by LENDING £11,000 for the trailer and providing PR and inclusion at a key national event, the RBL says “the Panel estimated this would mean considerable financial resources committed to the venture – at least £40,000 per annum on top of the £30,000 already spent on the project.”
    “…. focuses the public’s mind away from this message and on to the past………”
    “….events which were mainly retrospective….” What on earth does that mean? Are the RBL involved in planning FUTURE Wars then?

    Isn’t everything the RBL is supposed to stand for retrospective????

    Hmmmm remind me, what does REMEMBRANCE Day signify?
    Poppy to go next then….

    in reply to: RBL Replica Spitfire #1148246
    Icare9
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    Thanks, Robert, but pardon my apparent ignorance here, why is this trailer so narrow and short, as there appears no room for the wings, etc to be carried on it as well?
    For £11,000, I would have expected a more protective piece of kit for it…..

    Edit: Correction: There is this article in The Northern Echo dated 5th May 2008 relating to Bill Plant Ltd providing a trailer and Land Rover Defenders for transport…..

    Roadside assistance for replica Spitfire
    8:48am Monday 5th May 2008

    By Ian Noble

    A STRANDED replica Second World War fighter built by volunteers will tour air shows in the UK after a businessman stepped in to help make it mobile. Volunteers from the Royal British Legion’s (RBL) branch in Ripon, North Yorkshire, spent 7,000 hours and more than 11 months building the full-size replica Spitfire. It is the only one of its kind in the UK and was built as close to the original drawings for the fighter as possible. The aircraft is more than nine metres long, but does not have an engine, so volunteers were left with the problem of how to transport it.

    Then Ripon-based Bill Plant Limited, a driver training company, contacted the group and arranged to move the plane with the loan of two vehicles and an exhibition unit. Howard Whiting, chairman of the RBL’s Ripon branch, said: “Interest in the aircraft is immense.

    “But it’s not an easy thing to take around. In fact, travel arrangements to air shows and events was a nightmare until Bill Plant Limited stepped in.” The Spitfire was stored and maintained at RAF Leeming, near Bedale, while it was being built. Funds raised by the plane’s appearances at events will go towards helping to support RBL members and their families.

    It is also hoped that the Spitfire project will educate people about the sacrifices made by the Armed Forces.

    Bill Plant, managing director of Bill Plant Limited, said: “We are very proud to have the opportunity to be able to help in this way to support the Royal British Legion. “We are proud to support its work with servicemen past and present – in particular those involved in recent conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.” The replica Spitfire will be at Ripon market place on Saturday, May 17, before heading off on a nationwide tour. Among the shows it will visit are The Great Yorkshire Show, at Harrogate, and the Sunderland International Air Show, both in July. The plane is built from aluminium and instead of an engine has counter balance weights fitted to keep it level.

    Visitors can sit in the plane’s cockpit and feel what it was like to be a Second World War fighter pilot. Its wingspan is 11.2 metres, but the wings can be detached for transportation.

    in reply to: Tracing Wartime Aircrew #1145606
    Icare9
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    skyhigh: Why do you say the Lanc is coded “E” when it appears to be “N”? Is there something written on the back or elsewhere that shows “E”?
    There is a Lancaster forum and I’m sure they will have this or similar Sqaudron poses and someone could recognise which one…. Was there a Guinness Book of Records for how many you could get on a Lanc without the u/c giving way? Looks as if there’s a heavier load than a Grand Slam on her!!

    in reply to: Sgt A J Vaughan,916680,RAFVR, #1143455
    Icare9
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    Just a slight correction; according to the Southease War Grave web page, his aircraft appeared to have run out of fuel and force landed between Chartham and Chicham. Chartham is in Kent, which fits with 242 base, but Chilham, no Chicham in Kent. There is a Chidham, near Chichester but nothing like Chartham there.
    Otherwise it seems strange that he is buried where no one now seems to know anything about him or his wife, nor can anyone remember why.
    If he was an “outsider” surely they’d want to know why he was being buried there?
    There has to be some connection, now forgotten, such as a sister marrying locally or perhaps they were married there?
    It’s just intriguing that literally from out of the blue a pilot from a well known squadron ends up being buried far from where he crashed and with no apparent connection.
    You don’t just turn up with a coffin and say “this’ll do”!!!

    in reply to: Bob Stanford Tuck #1138978
    Icare9
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    I’ve no idea who the other chap is, but even for 50’s England they do look well scrubbed as if it’s some official do or celebration, what with the button hole etc…
    Is it an Officers Mess or servicemens club? Note the very ornate silver soda syphon holder (which probably wouldn’t last long in a pub!) and on the back of the spirits rack there is a stein, not a beer mug.
    Does that help narrow down where it could be and therefore when?

    in reply to: 107 Squadron loss Oct 1942 #1137879
    Icare9
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    NPB12: You’re right about Tebbutt being from Luton.
    His CWGC entry:
    Name: TEBBUTT, RONALD
    Initials: R
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant (Nav.)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Unit Text: 107 Sqdn.
    Age: 32
    Date of Death: 31/10/1942
    Service No: 1254448
    Additional information: Son of Vince and Martha Ann Tebbutt; husband of Ida Tebbutt, of Luton, Bedfordshire.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. AA. 8.
    Cemetery: ADEGEM CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY

    in reply to: Short Stirling Mk III #1136432
    Icare9
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    Hi, John It’s definitely coded “T” on the nose, but it could be a letter near the crew door that appears to be a “C” or a “G”, not a “U”
    For it to be 214, that would make it later than Oct ’42, or after Dec ’43 if Downham Market.
    Trees etc in background look in full foliage and the Stirling doesn’t look “tired”.
    You may well be correct, but I’d welcome more expert opinions.

    in reply to: Bombers Moon. Songs about or relating to aviation. #1129902
    Icare9
    Participant

    SD90: Is that kev35’s album!!
    Very good posting and the other tracks mentioned can be accessed from the righthand list on the link…
    Very thought provoking….
    Wiki (yeah, I know but…) has this
    Harding’s father, Louis Arthur “Curly” Harding, was a a navigator in the RAF who was killed during World War II, a few weeks before his son’s birth.
    Name: HARDING, LOUIS ARTHUR
    Initials: L A
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Flight Sergeant (Nav.)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
    Unit Text: 9 Sqdn.
    Date of Death: 24/09/1944
    Service No: 574158
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot 15. Joint grave 13.
    Cemetery: HOLTEN GENERAL CEMETERY

    So you can understand that this is really a song from the heart…..

    in reply to: Seaplane Activity At Southend-On-Sea #1128337
    Icare9
    Participant

    longshot: Is that a Venom tucked in the buildings just behind that round pool?
    A Vanguard too, don’t recall many of them…. And the open air “Museum” Aaah
    A Lanc, Sea Hawk and is that a Sea Fury airframe at the front in photo 2 with 826 on the fuselage? What became of them? Did they get into the Museum?

    in reply to: Seaplane Activity At Southend-On-Sea #1126650
    Icare9
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    There was one hanger on the far side from the Control Tower near the runway crossover where I’m sure there were stacks of Rapides, including wings stacked against the rear wall. Near where the Avian fuselage was. There were a lot of aircraft scrapped in a dump with what seemed like hundreds of radial engines in wooden pallets stacked about 6 high.
    Seemed to me to be WW2 stuff by the age of it (early 60’s) with dirty cracked perspex etc…. fascinating stuff for a kid and fed my aviation interest…. dunno about ‘elf n safety though!! Crawling through wrecks 5 or 6 high and squirming into cockpits imagining I could fly!!

    in reply to: Lancaster serial number information sought after #1114837
    Icare9
    Participant

    Peter, Binbrook’s got two threads on the go at the moment, piccies (and replies) are on the other one….

    in reply to: Observer's Brevet. #1113030
    Icare9
    Participant

    Originally adopted in 1915 by the RFC, its use was continued by the RAF until superseded by the Navigators’ and Air Bombers’ badges in 1942

    Any help?

    in reply to: Seaplane Activity At Southend-On-Sea #1098379
    Icare9
    Participant

    I think this is a Sarfend joke – See Planes at Sarfend…. nuffink to do wiv warter…

    in reply to: Seaplane Activity At Southend-On-Sea #1097473
    Icare9
    Participant

    Old Fart – As you ask, I was born in Rochford Hospital and lived near the end of the runway until 4 years ago… If that is the worst joke you’ve heard, you’ve had a very sheltered life….
    It’s obvious you misunderstood the SEE planes, so as you’re that easily offended, I apologise….. It was in response to comments that the thread had drifted t
    away from SEAplanes….. Calm down dear…..

    in reply to: Battle of Britain pilot memorials #1097331
    Icare9
    Participant

    Are you all working from one “Master” List of the BoB pilots??
    That should be set out first so none are omitted…
    For starters, there is this List:-
    http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/roll.html

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