Moving forward what I would like to see if I was the FAA is by 2016 is 24 Mirage F-1’s and 20 A4AR’s by 2018 the introduction of a new type like JF-17 Block 3 by 2020 24 JF-17’s in service and the A4’s retired 2022 the introduction of a second new type Mig-35 or J-10B 2025 20 of the new type and 30 JF-17’s and the F-1’s retired
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Argentina has it in their heads that west is best and this is stopping them from looking at all the options or is it firstly if they buy JF-17 who will build it China or Pakistan how long will it take to deliver any order what is the parts availability and training going to be like how much will it cost to buy a use full amount of weapons for the new type that can’t be fitted to any other type in uses with the FAA I am not saying this is the case but these are some questions I would be asking

with very limited money 12 F-1M’s can be sort with 12 more for parts they can fit sidewinder to them from the Fightinghawks and they can have them as soon as they like

Agreed and to this end it seems Argentina are once again looking at the Spanish F-1M’s however if Ecuador’s F-1’s are up for grabs with a good number of hours remaining on the airframe they could be a better bet however I have to say Ecuador’s Cheetah deal was outstanding
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That can’t be right 33,000 hrs in 32 year that would mean each airframe would have done less than 2000 hrs each or 60 hrs a year but if it is true grab them quick as they will have 4000+ hrs left on them

JF-17

7 hard points 8000lbs load
Speed Mach 1.6
G limits +8 -3
BVR yes
Service ceiling 55000 Ft
NVG compatible cockpit Yes
self-protection radar jamming pod
Super cruse NO

F-1 MF2000

7 hard points 8800lbs load
Speed Mach 2.2
G limits +8 -3
BVR yes
Service ceiling 65500 Ft
NVG compatible cockpit Yes
self-protection radar jamming pod
Super Cruse Yes

I have really come to the conclusion that the su35 or pakfa or j20 is what argentina should go for. Not sure why anyone would by mirage f1s for anything. Those planes would cost a foot and an arm to keep operational. Even the newer m2000s would suffer the same problem.

As much as I love the jf17, too shortlegged for argentinas needs. If u buy planes, they better be for war not just parades, something argentinas present fleet does not do justice with. Might as well wear the union jack and start speaking english than keep flying these old toy planes.

Maybe what the F-1M buy bring them is time to wait for something like J20 if they can pick up the 12 jet for around 75 to 100 million dollars it a good cheap stop gap for up to 10 years

I feel that keeping the three separate is the best way to go if we look at the Navy its air wing works in to ways firstly you would have 2 Carrier air groups which could put to sea as 6 fighting hawks 2 trackers and 2 sea kings or work along side the Brazilian Navy by sending a flight of 4 Fighting hawks 1 Tracker and a Sea King

Also the MPA’s need to work with the surface fleet and SAR units as I said before the Navy needs to get 8 Knud Rasmassen class OPV’s and 4 new frigates over the next 6 years

The Army needs to be able to move troops and equipment as it sees fit and would not like the Air force saying when it can or can not do so

The one place Tri service can and will work is training it has too very good points firstly you are bring the best from all three services together to train the future and secondly because all your new pilots start together you start them working together from the very first with a better understanding of what each services does