i think it was more the case of whenever a Iraqi solider spotted enything from the coalition there minds was on waving a white flag instead of shooting enything. remember the stories of AH-64s taking POWs… 😉

That was already tried at Camp David, Taba, and another request to continue negotiations (time frame late 2000 to Jan 01). Arafat refused requests by Clinton and Barak in Jan 2001, to open up negotiations again. Arafat went instead, to visit the President of Tunisia ! Jan 01 was the very end of the Clinton presidency.

Are you comparing a multi-party democracy, to a group that has embraced just a corrupt oppressive military dictatorship, and that has just voted in a theological fundamentalist terrorist oligarchy ?

Israel has built Palestinian universities, paid for Arab healthcare, welfare, and schooling. The Palestinians have textbooks in public schools (paid for by the EU), that encourage terrorist attacks on Israeli civilian targets, for the sole purpose of becoming a martyr and finding 73 virgins in heaven. Where are the Israeli textbooks, encouraging Israeli students and soldiers, to kill Palestinian terrorists and or civilians ?

they dont have to… they just watch the news and see 200 tanks surrounding a town, or Apaches and F-16s bombing runways or TV stations.

😀 WOW… where do you get all them fantastic photos from.. brilliant. this seems a tall order but has enyone got a photo of a RAF Gloster Javelin intercepting a Soviet Aircraft.. or a Sea Vixen.. i am sure interceptions did take place between them… mind you a Javelin probabley had a job catching up with a Bear.. 😀

If Israel had done EVERYTHING you ask, the arabs would STILL hate them and want to destroy them. The simple fact is that the arabs have no intention of EVER living in peace with Israel.

yes i agree with you, but it does not help matters when Isreal feels the same, it would be a start though if Isreal did what i said, but i would have to admit its probabley to late now, us humans are funny creatures, i mean look at us Brits and the French. its been over 150 years since we last had a war against each other, but still there is some dislike, war wounds takes a very very long time to heel… :rolleyes:

it is Isreals fault why they are surrounded in hate, if they wasnt so dammed aggressive and give back land that dosnt belong to them, give Palastine its indapendence, in a way they have brought terrorisam to themselves. its the same as us in the west. if a group of people cant have a “proper” war they will use terroisam. if i had my way the Arabs and Israelies would be put as far away as possible from each other, say one on Murcury and the other on Pluto… it is a great pity the Isrealies and Arabs are great people, but they keep letting themselves down with all this fighting and hatered. to me they are all as bad as one another..

i agree with you there mate its if iran get involved thats what im worried about i cant see the americans stopping them if they attack iran.

thats the point i was getting at… what would happen if Iran attacked Isreal, America would be there like a shot, in one way or another.. i am not agreeing with the terrorists, in my opinion all terroists should be wiped out.. but i dont think this gives Israel or eny other country the right to bomb the **** out of a nation just because there is a few terrorists living there..

alternatively

for air defense…4 Tesla death beams 😀 :p (afterall, we have just celebrated his 150th birthday)
for air-superiority… 1(in words, one) Borg cube, class 4 tactical, with reduced radar signature and integrated METEOR and IRIS-T missiles and, offcourse, TVC impulse engines, can’t forget that one… 😀
..and 1 LucasArt’s production studio, so we can fool our enemies that we have more than 1!

Never give up, never surrender! 😀 😀 😀

😀 😀 😀 😀 trouble is with a Borg cube you would need about 10.000 pilots…. i think 3 sqns of imperial star destroyers would be a better bet.. with about 300 tie fighters for point defence.. 😀 😀 😀

you can just imagine the press conference…

WE ARE THE BORG YOU WILL BE ASIMALATED.. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.. God i sound like president Bush.. 😀 😀 😀 😀

Israel has got away with it many times in the past.. so what is different now.. the whole world “almost” took up arms against Iraq when it invaded Kuwait. is there as we speak B-52s or aircraft carriers heading towards Isreal… not the last time i looked.. its as if some countrys can get away with murder, while others only have to burp the wrong note and they have the world breathing down there throat.. not right is it….