Well, what a weekend. I felt for England … I hate penalty shootouts. After all the months of preparation, the Group and earlier knockout games, it all comes down to some strange sort of one-to-one contest. So underserving for all parties. Better to adopt a modified Tennis technique, say 10 minutes each way, until such time as a goal is scored. As the teams get tired, that will happen.
And the Frogs took out Brazil. A great second half to the game. Crap first half. And Zidane!!! Amazing.
But of course I’m nailed in my bet – I had Germany / Brazil final. C’est la vie!
BIG DAY OUT
Why do they keep re-making, surely there must be other stories worthy of telling on film?
17 August 1943.
During the day the 8th had a go at Schweinfurt and Regensburg (and lost about 60 B17’s), that night the RAF went off to Peenemunde (and lost 54 aircraft).
A very big day out.
Vulcan takes bite out of runway
As for New Zealand and the Vulcan – care to tell us more about the connection in terms of the operational careeer of the type?
Well there was the one that tried to smear itself all over Wellington’s runway
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=115748
It was in better condition in 1996 by the looks of it.
The web is a mine of misinformation. That link includes photos of the “Sandringham”. Dave is right … the aircraft is a Solent. And it’s beautiful. The interior is like some sort of first class railway carriage, leather armchairs etc. Makes you think it would be rather nice to fly on such a beastie.
But my Dad loved to regale me with a story of flying between NZ and Aust in the late 40’s or early 50’s, into the teeth of a westerly gale … 11+hours of shuddering and shaking at low level … the very antithesis of an enjoyable flight.
Just when is the Queen’s birthday?
Well done indeed (and I won a bet) … but let’s not wish football supremacy on the Aussies … they will be intolerable when they’re supreme at every sport.
Well done indeed (and I won a bet) … but let’s not wish football supremacy on the Aussies … they will be intolerable when they’re supreme at every sport.
How about looping a Stirling?
A properly executed barrel roll is a 1g (or close to) manouevre. Should be within the capabilities of most aircraft when lightly loaded.
The problem is when it goes wrong and falls out of the top of a sloppily executed roll.
There lies a world of misery and pain. Very unlikely to be able to get it back.
Moggy
This is an excerpt from “FOREVER STRONG: The story of 75 Squadron RNZAF, 1916-1990” by Norman L. R Franks (which I’ve discovered is apparently a very valuable book).
Pilot Des Horgan remembers a trip to Hannover on the night of Sep 27/28 1943. He was flying a Stirling (EF148).
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“My first combat with this particular type of night fighter – JU88 – is something which I shall never forget. The target was Hannover. We had no problems on the outward journey and approached the target at the appointed time. The welcome can of orange juice had been downed and my toilet tin had been handed up and used for the usual nervous de-watering ritual. A couple of minutes to go and as usual, right on time to the very second, the target indicators started to fall.
We were flying at around 13,000 feet and as we prepared to run over the target, the reception from the local defence system started, and true to form put on the usual good show. Lots of flak and plenty of searchlights, the climax to our night’s entertainment was to come sooner than expected.
With our bomb doors open, my bomb aimer was giving me a true heading to run in onto the target indicators. Approximately two seconds before bombs away, the rear gunner informed me that a night fighter was approaching from below and dead astern. Our normal fighter affiliation intercom patter followed and we knew that as soon as he saw our bombs go, he would come forward and give us a fatal burst of cannon before we could even close the bomb doors. This is not exactly what happened.
When the rear gunner informed me that the night fighter had disappeared from sight under his turret, I sat back on the stick and the rear gunner had a sitting shot at the JU88, directly below, and he made no mistake. Unfortunately for me, in the heat of the moment I miscalculated a manoeuvre which I had practised on numerous occasions over England, and instead of slipping away to port or starboard as intended, my aircraft came over on to its back and literally fell out of the sky.
As I mentioned before, I will never forget what happened in the next couple of minutes. What actually happened when 20 tones of aircraft goes into a vertical dive, I know! I also know that I eventually regained control approximately 200 feet over Hannover, low enough fore me to see three people standing on a street corner. We made it back to base and on inspection in the morning, R-Roger was hopeless write-off, never to be flown again. Everything in the aircraft that was breakable was broken – a truly remarkable aircraft to fly reasonably well after such a hammering and to get us home in such a devastated condition.
Some weeks later, my wireless operator, over a drink in the Mess, asked me what street I had been looking for that night over Hannover”
So that’s a great story isn’t it? A little over imagined here and there … and inaccurate in at least one respect, EF148 did fly again after repairs but was lost in November over Berlin. All that said, it appears that Des pulled the aircraft more-or-less straight up and then dropped it over backwards. Fell into a loop?
… n’t kick properly :p
… n’t kick properly :p
Well it’s about bloody time I paid attention then … 😮
Ah yes of course. Thanks for that Dave (and Ollie). I’ve seen (genuine) footage of bouncing bombs being dropped by a Mosquito, can’t recall any similar (genuine not the film) of a Wellington – but can fully believe it. cheers
Wellington?
I completely agree about the Wellington though. The aircraft used in the original DB was in fact MF628 (T.10, hence the blanked-off front turret position), which of course we all know sits in the RAF Museum. The aircraft in film was actually flown in its training role colour scheme anyway. Would they let it go, being the most complete Wellington airframe? I somehow doubt it!
I’m genuinely (as in not sarcastically) intrigued. Can someone please enlighten me; what role did a Wellington play in the dambuster’s raids?
Stay calm folks … there’s no obligation on anyone to like any particular sport on this ‘ere globe of ours.
This particular game happens to be hugely popular and that’s just a fact of life. And if you’re one of the majority who don’t like the game, then by all means toss in a few jibes (there’s no such thing as on on-topic thread) but do keep it civil.
Stay calm folks … there’s no obligation on anyone to like any particular sport on this ‘ere globe of ours.
This particular game happens to be hugely popular and that’s just a fact of life. And if you’re one of the majority who don’t like the game, then by all means toss in a few jibes (there’s no such thing as on on-topic thread) but do keep it civil.