Those look like regular Halton panniers as they only extend the length of the bomb bay.
On spit carrier the bay doors are modified rather then replaced so the streamlined faring extends fore and aft of the bomb bay.
P.S. Interesting that H7-I/L (?) has a H2S radar fitted still. On a de-armed cargo conversion. Why?
The turret?
I assume that is a dummy turret in place of the one the RAF would fit when delivered to Canada or the UK? Is this correct?
Something to do with the USA’s neutrality at the time?
As TIGHAR still haven’t located an aircraft all by themselves outside of an airport the more likely reason is that Gillespie is just begging for cash again.
Seafuryfan: Post #3 might be what you are after.
Would I be the only one that read the above as ‘I assumed he has a con operated typewriter/computer’.
Not that it isn’t the truth…
Skeeler. Thank you. Good to see work continues on the weary old bird.
Re: Post #67 photo #7
Are those Victor bits being stripped of paint?
My apologies. I misconstrued the intentions behind post #2480
Dave, soon after the announcement of the discovery of Copping’s Kittyhawk further damage had been down to the aircraft. Its location was known and there was nothing to stop people from visiting it to claim their souvenir or take a few pot-shots at it.
Do you want to explain why you think the aircraft would have been left alone as a perfect time capsule against all the evidence to the contrary in the long grim history of plundering wrecks?
Copping’s aircraft is not in the desert being picked apart for souvenirs and scrap. Despite the appalling restoration the airframe is in a more secure location than it was. Its future is more secure -the bits that survived the restoration that is. Its not the ideal outcome but its not the worst.
Time was of the essence here and perhaps in the short time available negotiation to move the Kittyhawk to location within Egypt was the best that could be agreed with the local authorities. Maybe there was not the time to agree a price that would ave seen the airframe leave Egypt. And maybe at the time Egypt had more pressing matters to attend to -such as a coup- other than what is in the big scheme of things, and despite its historical provenance, a mere trifle.
Jeepman:
To excuse the restoration as being to “third world” standards because of its location is specious. You only need the google the Great Egyptian Museum at Giza to see the intent and what can be achieved.
How much more attention is spend on the Giza museum as opposed to an aeronautical one? How much for funding does it receiver given that Egypt’s economy relies so heavily on tourism and Tourists almost always go to Egypt to see the relics of the Pharaohs. And here is the clincher: How much international help and expertise is given the Giza museum in preserving its artifacts?
That restoration is pure technological and museological incompetence. No more, no less
It is a very good example of such, but was that the best the museum could do with the staff it hand on hand? The tools it had on hand? The information it had on hand? And the money and materials it could spare?
That is all speculation but then so is the assumption that the museum just didn’t care.
The p-40 looks terrible. Its kind of like a sex doll with wings: garish, shiny and only really acceptable to those who haven’t seen the real thing.
However this is petty unfair. The exact preservation of aviation artifacts -keeping as much original aviation material as possible- is really a first world problem.
Maybe the the lesson to be learned here is that spiriting away every find is not the correct, or affordable way to go. Perhaps its time to be open to aiding in restorations and sharing the knowledge and skills involved
. I am not so much worried about what is in the photo -that has a long term future at least- but what was in the skip at the back of the museum.
There seems to be a lot of speculation here.
Is there a source for these rumours?
The DAS website merely says their Britannia was donated.
No disrespect to the 109 but a Myrt is more exciting.