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Very nice, so how come you don’t understand that you don’t need a ladder
when stood in an open space.

steps

It’s my opinion that you are incapable of understanding, do you use a flashgun
to take a picture of the Moon? seriously I’d would like to know:D

spste

there is an advantage !! as i said it may only be a miniscule difrence but it is that miniscule difrence between a shot being in print and not !!

without the stepladder without a doubt he could get a closely cropped shot

but magazines like things like a clear area of sky to print a write up below the actual shot so he may be taking a shot to allow for printing over below the actual subject matter

you can’t be higher and not get an advantage if a fence is there !! that is impossible

if it wasn’t all millitary scouts would have said “” lets head to the lower ground for a better view !!”

it may be annoying for some and maybe there should be certain areas where you could use them but there is no doubt there is an advantage in using them ( it is a well used photography technique not only used at airshows )

i also have no objection to those getting up at sparrows fart so secure a front space and putting windbreaks up everyone is equal and some may be a tad jealuos but there is nothing saying you are not allowed to get up early and organise yourself for the day !!

http://www.ddroom.com/memos/2010/08/11/using-a-step-ladder-to-change-your-point-of-view/

How in gods name is a 10ft fence going to stop him getting a picture of these aircraft when they are (I’ll say it again) flying a 500ft over his head, and he’s 20ft from the fence, and I know a stepladder helps you get above a fence for a better shot, but NOT in the two pictures shown, I was not on a ladder when I took the pic of him and look, the same aircraft in shot and I’ve left some space below the formation for the title of the book

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I don’t mind a bit of light hearted bullsh9t Jim:D

Step

it may only be a marginaly small advantage but in photography a marginaly small advantage can make the difrence between selling a shot or it staying on your hard drive !!

that sort of fencing is a pain in the **** for getting shots over therefore even 2 feet higher is an undeniable advantage

Not for an aircraft flying at 500ft it’s not, If his steps in the pic I put up were 20 feet higher it would have only a minute
difference to any photos he took, like I said he’s a long way from that fence:D

Steps

deffinate advantage it gives him more shooting options as it has taken the fence out of a lot of his shooting area giving him far more options of shots

on a telephoto he could shoot the group further out if he was lower the fence could block his view

a step ladder is a superb piece of equipment to a photographers armoury because sometimes a shot taken from a lower or higher perspective can open up scenarios away from the norm such as better lighting , a better angle , easier to photograph without including ground obstacles like cones and barriers and people

Very nicely put, but toss just the same, you see he’s about 10 metres
from the tent, all that mud in front him is the is driveway through the camp site. so you think a 5 foot step will give a higher angle to aircraft flying at
300 to 500ft:D

Steps

A slightly more elevated view of the aircraft from the usual shot, even if it is only a couple of feet?!

So what about this then, it can serve no purpose whatsoever:D

rafale

1/2012 EUROFIGHTER WORLD
http://eurofighter.com/magazin/eurofighter_world_04_12/files/assets/downloads/publication.pdf

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TYPHOON AND RAFALE PARTNER UP

The RAF’s No. 3(F) Squadron deployed two of its Eurofighter Typhoons from their base in Coningsby to France recently in order to visit the Armee de l’Air’s Rafale 1/7 Squadron at their Saint-Dizier air base!

My sons on 3 sqd and he says that some Rafales might be coming to Coningsby in the next few weeks, please don’t shoot me if it doesn’t happen:D