I saw that too, note he never made jokes about white working class people from the north of England though.

I wouldn’t argue with you, but I think he may have done actually; seem to recall him making jokes about Mancs, Chavs and whatnot. Even so, there’s no doubt he was racist, bigoted, ignorant, and archaic. He also made me laugh, even when I didn’t want to.

She’s a brat..she’s a bitch..she’s spoilt..she’s a Daddy’s girl but i still feel sorry for her being taken out of her comfort zone and into the real world must be quite a shock to her system

A monster. Not green, scaly or fire-breathing, but an unedifying creation of some of the worst aspects of western culture, where we worship wealth wherever it comes from, where someone with no discernible worth can become famous for being famous.

I reckon it’s high time the good people of America claimed their legal system back from the fat cat lawyers whose only real interest seems to be in milking it for all it’s worth. (And no, this is not an “Anti-American Rant”)

Why is it that every time something like this or even UFO sightings are produced they’re always blurry and out of focus

Funny that with so many people now having video cameras/phone cameras and with so much CCTV and advanced sureveillance equipment around, all these images of the Loch Ness Monster, UFO’s, apparitions, wild creatures, Sasquatch etc still only manage to show just enough to tantalise and intrigue yet never enough to really prove anything. People have been watching Loch Ness for decades, and what have we got to show for it?

Gun control does not work. Britain itself has proved that.

But by and large it does work. Sure, we have gun crime in the UK, and it may even be rising, although it’s still way below US levels. When nearly every other civilised country has tougher gun laws and lower gun crime rates than the US, surely you can’t deny the connection? And whilst I understand your argument about denying responsible gun owners, I’d suggest that’s the price you have to pay if you want to tackle this problem. And yes, of course the unbalanced or criminally minded will just disregard the law, but by limiting the amount of weapons in circulation at least you’d make it more difficult or expensive for them to get hold of one.

It’s patently ridiculous to try and claim the prevalence of guns in US society is not part of the problem. The more guns there are, the more chance of some of them being misused, and until US public opinion faces up to that simple but (for some) unpalatable fact, the problem will not go away. Why are so many American intent on owning a gun anyway? Someone in the other thread said it was 96 for every 100 of the population. Of course it’s ultimately the responsibility of the person who pulls the trigger, and no one would deny that, but unless and until you can control every nutter or criminal in the country (ie never), surely you should at least make it much, much harder for them to get hold of a lethal weapon. If the gun lobby claims it’s not the weapon but the person holding it that’s the problem, would they be happy with states like Iran and North Korea having WMD’s?

Sealordlawrence, please don’t keep putting up this “anti-US” smokescreen. It really isn’t like that.

Djcross makes some fair points, but it’s still surely much easier to buy a gun in the States than in almost any other civilised country. The US has a higher percentage of gun ownership than most countries and also a higher rate of gun crime. Coincidence?

Gun Deaths – International Comparisons
Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

Homicide Suicide Unintentional

USA 4.08 (1999) 6.08 (1999) 0.42 (1999)

Canada 0.54 (1999) 2.65 (1997) 0.15 (1997)

Switzerland 0.50 (1999) 5.78 (1998) –

Scotland 0.12 (1999) 0.27 (1999) –

England/Wales 0.12 (1999/00) 0.22 (1999) 0.01 (1999)

Japan 0.04* (1998) 0.04 (1995) <0.01 (1997)

* Homicide & attempted homicide by handgun

Source-http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

Guns do not kill people

Pardon? :confused: More guns= more guns falling into the wrong hands= more massacres. How much longer can certain sections of the US public go on denying the logic of that? To compare guns with commercial aircraft (as used on 9/11) seems a bit fatuous; one is made solely to kill or wound, the other isn’t. As for the argument that it’s the individuals responsibilty, yes of course ultimately it is, but it’s hopelessy naieve to leave it at that. Would you extend that argument to, say, poisons & explosives, and argue that they should be made freely available too as it would only become a problem if someone decided to use them against other people? As for being an “anti-American rant” that is precisely what I said my post was not Learn to take a bit of honest criticism about one issue without seeing it as some wholesale attack on US values; after all, open debate and a plurality of viewpoints is what made your country and mine great.