It happens, deal with it, in an intelligent manner.

Such a manner does not include the sky-is-falling rhetoric and passing laws that only affect law abiding citizens while criminals laugh at the arrogance shown by poliiticans as they pass their new laws they do not give a damn about while being as useful as teats on a bore.

Never. If I ever become so de-humanised (or “intelligent”? :confused:) that I can accept brutal mass-murders of primary school children as “just something that happens,” then they can take me outside and shoot me. I guess you’ve neatly proved my point though about these massacres being seen as a price worth paying for America to keep its lethal toys. I really have better ways of spending my time than wasting it on rubbish like this, so I’m out.

You start dying the day you are born, some die at earlier ages due to nasty, whether crime or disease, circumstances. That is life, as humanity never changes, neither will that fact.

So it doesn’t really matter that 20 young kids are blown to smithereens, because they were going to die sooner or later anyway? Ye Gods…

I really don’t see the point in these arguments about whether, technically, a weapon is legally or illegally held. More weapons in circulation (compared to elsewhere) = more chance of one falling into the wrong hands =more American children slaughtered. Until America has the collective balls to face up to this simple but unpalatable fact and begin reining in gun ownership, it will just go on and on. As I’ve said here before -and I’m still waiting for someone to disprove or even deny it- America seems to regard it as a price worth paying in order to maintain its unhealthy relationship with firearms. Wouldn’t be entirely surprised to hear of yet another school shooting in the run-up to Christmas, though I sincerely hope I’m wrong.

As an aside, I read recently that Lyndon Johnson had on his Texas ranch a “40ft high hunting blind flanked by banks of powerful searchlights that Johnson would switch on, blinding his prey (usually a deer, I believe) for an easy shot.” Can someone please explain to me how that is in any way “sport” and not just blood lust?

Massacres have zero to do with gun control, except as a chicken-little tool to try to scare the ignorant or paranoid public that they occur simply because guns exist.

No connection then between a high rate of gun ownership and a high rate of gun misuse?

Doctor Who was part of my childhood back in the sixties, and I can still remember the Saturday afternoon TV line up of wrestling on World of Sport, Doctor Who, and Jukebox Jury. The thing labelled Doctor Who now though seems to bear little relationship to the programme I knew. Think I liked Jon Pertwee best, and couldn’t stand David Tennant with all that over-acting and those manic eyes.

Eee yow were looky to live in’ t paper bag. We joost lived in’t tank w’out uz clothes on an’ wit sewerages reet over uz heeds.

Luxury…

It has been regularly repeated on ITV4 I think it is and very welcome too. Never palls. Would love to see Ripping Yarns which I don’t think has ever been repeated. We had a now unplayable VHS for many years.

You can get Ripping Yarns DVD’s quite reasonably priced on Ebay. Recently read books of the transcripts. Brilliant stuff; where else would you find lines like “I know you! You’re Jean-Pierre Olthwaite’s lad!” ?