Why not make the effort to ask the organisers yourself, and then come back and tell us what they say?

….or would you rather someone else did it for you? 😎

Chornedsnorkack often seems to get rebuked by the mods, but I think his only “fault” is in the way he phrases some of his questions. I suspect he’d already seen that website, and he was actually trying to ask if anyone had any inside info or rumours, a little like the way others here talk about Legends or RIAT beforehand. From his profile it appears he’s just 16 years old, Thai I think, and his passion for commercial aviation is plain for all to see. Bearing that in mind, shouldn’t we be encouraging him and cutting him a little slack if his English seems just a bit quaint at times?

Not an Aeronautical Syndicate Valkyrie?

Some useful advice here-

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/PLASTERING_CENTRE.htm

Reality was a little bit more difficult. The SU had promised to order 100 hundred examples of the 152 and to allow the GDR a modern aviation industry by that.
In the same time scale Tupolev developed the smaller Tu-124, but did modernise it to the similar size of 152 to Tu-124A, which did become the Tu-134.
In March 59 the prototyp with the Mikulin engines had a test for a fly past over Leipzig Fair to impress the visiting Chrutschev. But that did never happen, because on the return flight from that test flight the Mikulin engines ceased and the 152 crashed. In June the SU canceled the order and with it the modern aviation industry in Dresden.
The much more economical Pirna 014 engines were not fitted and tested on an IL-28R.
The official reason was: The prototyp V1 was flown too fast and had a too steep sink-rate so the gravety-feed tanks were unable to feed the Mikulin engines, when the 152 V1 did crash 3 miles short of the runway.
The export of the 152 II had to start in 1962, the similar capability Tu-134 did so from 1964.

I really don’t see how you can compare the Caravelle with the Baade 152. One was a classic, trend-setting, best selling airliner, the other little more than an (unsuccesful) bomber with seats. A bit like comparing an A330 with a Lancastrian. 🙂

For the title of ultimate worst aircraft I dont think the Christmas Bullet can be beaten. But as for production aircraft, has anyone mentioned the Vultee Vengeance, slammed by one USAAF General as “A waste of metal”?

Probably not the worst of all time, but a favourite bad plane of mine has always been the Baade 152 airliner (or are we just talking military here?). Slow, short ranged, spars and undercarriage both taking up cabin space, underpowered, tricky to land, and bleedin ugly too (somehow puts me in mind of Jade Goody)

http://www.aviastar.org/air/ddr/veb_152.php

I think it was marketed originally several years ago by Viz magazine.

Its along the lines of there previous bit of tat, namely ‘The life of Jesus- in Cats’ plate.

Some people have more money that (insert insult here)

Steve

I think there was also a ‘Princess Diana Full English Breakfast Plate Of Hope’

I remember one poor lonely chap at work who used to buy those silly Danbury Mint plates as “an investment” for about £70 a time, and one day he brought one in to show me. He was so proud of all the certificates in their fancy envelopes, but when you actually read through all the verbiage all it really said was stuff like “This is certified as a plate by the plate collector’s guild” or “This was made in Italy” or “This is part of the XXXX collection” Total rubbish.

My brain must be going, because I thought it was Susanna Yorke….

Quite right. Probably wishful thinking on my part after ogling Susanna Reid
on BBC “Breakfast” again.

It was also broadcast on the Channel 4 HD service in Hi Definition, only found that out when I switched over and caught the closing credits!!

Let me reassure you that Susannah Reid in her suspenders looked even better in HD. :diablo: