Hi RER,

There are several ways to do this, depending on what you want from the film now, and in the future.

I’m confused as to your 20mm film stock, are you sure its not 35mm?

I would suggest that you get both films telecined, this will give you mpeg(non interlaced) frames which can then be either captured from the screen, or from editing software. You will also then obviously have the complete films on DVD compatible format. It won’t however be cheap to do.

The easiest way (once you have identified the frame/s) is to simply place individual frames in a photographic enlarger and print.

If you try and halt the projector then you will most likely destroy the frames you wanted, and you’ll damage the projector. The lamp will burn through the film stock.
If you have been trying to capture a picture from the projector screen, you will also need to makesure that your camera can record at the same framerate as the film is being played at, or you’ll get a ‘rolling’ picture.

If you have a photo/scanner, you can place the sections of film into it with a sheet of white paper(although a light box would be better if you can find one) behind and scan. The results of this will obvisouly vary depending on the resolution of the scanner you are using, but will produce results.

I hope this helps.

It is a damn good read in my opinion too Daz and Janie. I read it 3 years ago and reckon it would make a good film, some great characters.
I seem to recall something about vertical takeoff capabilities of a Thruster being explored in a 65mph headwind! May just go read it again now.

I wonder whether R has read it…

Best so far has to have been one summer whilst on camp with RAF Cadets…
Up from Cambridge with 5AEF in a Chippy and having just done all the aerobatics that it is capable it was time to return, or so I thought- from the north came 5 B17’s and a few (3 I think) P51’s returning from an earlier flight. We came within 3/4mile of them, absolutely awesome experience, one moment I wished I had had a camera with me. Obviously whilst Memphis Belle was being filmed.

It should also be mentioned that earlier that day we had been at Duxford, a few minutes after arriving there 5 B17s, P51’s, Bouchons and I think a B25 thundered into the air, truely ground shaking.

sorry Moggy but i cant agree with that, the school I fly at at Norwich has got a system where PPL holders can enjoy the benefits of share ownership without having to purchase a share. Basically they pay a small monthly sum and then pay cost price for their flying. So some people are flying for as little as £60 an hour. Thats why I chose to learn there in the first place.

I used to be in a group like this at Chatteris, operating an AMF Cheveron (3-axis Microlight) run by a company called Airshare – damn good idea. The one difference was that you didn’t have to have ANY previous experience- instruction was included.

You joined the group, the more you paid each month by standing order the cheaper your flying was, payments started at £50ish which got you 1 1/2 hours I think back then. You went solo, got your license, and brought your share for £1! – but also agreed to sell it back to the group on leaving for £1. I think there were 20 members per aircraft, and various different aircraft at different sites around the UK, any of which you were able to fly given the correct license. Its a shame they’re not still around.

Mark, I can help here… I can get a professional transfer done to master DV tape of this, there is then a high quality DV archive copy. DVD and VCD can then be done from this.

The cost? price of the DV master tape, and a couple of pints. There are a couple of conditions: copyright MUST be cleared in writing and the person doing the transfer wants a copy and possibly future use.
Mark, give me a call or PM if you need.
I am not on Pprune so if anyone here is, please pass on details via PM to me and will happily get the ball rolling.

Fossil fuels such as diesel, petrol, avgas and avtur will run out one day but there are alternatives.
Diesel and avtur are very close in the manufacturing process, as is domestic heating oil – therefore a diesel or turbine engine will run on any of these fuels.

There is a plant derived diesel fuel which comes from oil seed rape, this could be a possible future alternative for aero diesel engines.
Cooking oil is plant based and an automotive diesel engine will run on it, check it out in tesco’s – its a lot cheaper per litre than forecourt diesel, though you would need a pretty big basket to carry out 60 litres to your Golf turbo diesel!!

Bio-diesel is almost as expensive to manufacture as Diesel, the part that makes it cheaper is the lower tax, 0.27p/litre as opposed to 0.4#p something. It also uses some very hazardous chemicals in its manufacture.
Bio-Diesel is usually made from Waste Vegetable Oil, well filtered from the chippy or Chinese!

Diesel engines will run on Straight Vegetable Oil, but there is a problem with viscocity, its just too thick to feed the engine as-is, it needs to be heated before injection. It has been known to clog injectors and break injector pumps (Bosch pumps work well though), as well as increase coking in the cylinders-heads. Peanut, Palm, Rapeseed, Sunflower, Caster and Hemp oil have all been used in Compression Ignition engines with good results.
I would be very surprised to see any vegetable oil based fuel in Aviation use, other than for testing.

The only difference between Avtur and Diesel is (so I’m told) Avtur lacks the lubrication additives needed in modern cars, I may be wrong.

Interesting debate.
Firstly I’m sorry to hear that you lost a friend due to spin training, I personally feel that spin training is (and should be) an essential part of any flying training.
If an aircraft is capable of getting into a spin then you, as pilot should be able to get it out, I’d rather know that I can do it. Mid -spin is not a time really to be thinking about whether your instructor taught you the correct theory, thats without considering any possible differences in recovery technique for different aircraft.
I agree with you on the point that simulators can (if you get the ‘right’ one) be most valuable with training, but shouldn’t be the sole training.

I don’t (yet) have a PPL. My experience with spinning has been limited to a 20ish incipient and one fully developed, accidental spin- from out of a stack of 12 gliders in a very strong thermal, most scary even with an instructor in the back. Stalls and spins are practiced frequently in the gliding world as a student, for very good reason.
I’ve flown only one aircraft that just wouldn’t stall or ‘break'(when correctly loaded), no chance that it would drop a wing, just ‘mushed’ at around 300fpm(IIRC), the AMF Chevron (microlight).
I was most disappointed as a CCF Cadet at not being allowed to spin a Chipmunk, wasn’t through lack of trying!
Rarely have I flown without a parachute.
I decided that after the spinning incident I would do a parachute jump, I ended up doing more than one 😀