Thats £48,3 or $92.5 million per bird. Which compares to what $150 million for each F-22? 😀
or compare it to the 60+ million the French paid for their Rafale B F2s 😎
The same logic is applied to other spheres.
and again the same waste of bandwidth is shown..
what does LCA and Arjun have to do with Kopyo and Zhuk :rolleyes:
answer that genious
This is example of false induction.
good job Yahoo, not only are your logics flawed, you turned a thread about radar into one about tanks. 😮 :rolleyes:
may Allah help the FC-1 then….. uses a russian engine … doesn’t it ?? :rolleyes:
not to mention hopes on an “indigenous missile” that uses a russian seeker :rolleyes:
Viper01, thanks for the concern my southern friend, but i am no more irranationalistic as some other posters on this board. no worries, when I find something better I’ll change it for you. But yes you are right, there is alot of evil on this board already 🙂
Shadow – good call. Since the F-22 might be unavailable to many air forces.. perhaps the next best thing in air dominance such as the Su-3X, or Pakfa should be good..
or, some one could go on the other and and obtain something lower like a Gripen, etc
what an ugly ship (ugly as in Mi-24 kind of good ugly). So does some one actually man those cannon turrets? or is it electronic?
Um, hamburger, what exactly is wrong with the Russian R-73M, R-27ER, R-27ET, R-33?
that’s what i’m trying to find out buddy! 😉
It does represent Japan because that is what the wourld know about japan at the time! Why are the columbians called drug traffickers ? Do all columbians
deal drugs? No!
Chinese have discovered many things before the europeans but never credited with these discouvery. Why? cause no one else knew about them!
ex: Pythagoras theorm was first discovered and published in chinese text but no european knew about it!
So even though modern technology has allowed people like you, to realize that our lovely Japanese friends are all not pirates you still regard them as so 😮
The Polynesians are not pirates and never came to china even if they did they did not have the arms to combat the chinese coastal howitzers… The japanese are the only ones!
talk about diverting the subject here, were we not talking about the technological capacities of Indonesians and such at the time? talk about avoiding the question!! 😀
of course if we were to talk about raiders, there are other barbarians who raid through means other than ship 😉
Oh so the Japanese claim to the waters based on a rock 2*2m is legit? lets see someone live on that thing before I would call it a island!
hey, it works for people who claim the Spratley islands 😀
A responsive army that invaded almost the whole of asia… while the NK and Vietnam never fought anybody off of the korean peninsula or Vietman?
Never heard of a country called vietMAN 😀 but let’s cut to the chase..
how many countries has Japan invaded since WWII ended and how many countries has China fought since WWII ended. Lets see you answer that 🙂
I’ve been to most European countries FYI…and yes the French are Sneering towards the Brits. Although i’m not really interested in european history i’m quite well versed due to my education background in Canada…We were required to learn in school.
well it goes to show how ignorant you are, try living in both Britain and France like I have :).. now that we know you’re canadian, we have some suspicion to who you really are..
So we are told that the Hornet has never scored a kill.
Sauron
don’t you day say that! go back to middle earth you evil eyeball you 😡
i’m more interested in how well this thing works as after all Soviet/Russian AAMs have not the bestest of performance history :Diablo:
how well it’s seeker and radar works when in the face of modern countermeasures
Here is where i’m justified regarding your lack of insight on asian history!
Japanese were pirates because they represent the japanese nation on the whole to other nations at the time. They were the only Japanese who got out of the country, and they were the only official deligation from “the land of the rising sun”. North American Natives were called The Red Men because the first tribe they encountered painted their body red! This was accepted internationally but were all tribes like that? No! but they represented indians at the time!
so you admit that it is a mis-representation, yet still insist that it represents the entire Japan :rolleyes: tsk tsk
And final comment to your inquireries as to possible pirates of other nationallity that’s definate no! Southeast asian countries like Malaysia, Indonesia were technologically unable to do so, Korea was a puppet nation, as is Vietnam. Vietman was relatively peaceful at the time, being Buddhists.
And when did WW2 happen? quite recently because “the people who suffered” have not all died yet! it’s not like it happened some hundred or so years ago!
Technologically unable to do so? how so? Even Polynesians with rickydick wooden canoes manage to travel all the way to Hawaii and Easter Island.. are you saying the only pirates in Asia are Japanese? 😮 :rolleyes:
eh, Japan destroyers intercepted chinese merchant vessels in chinese waters, so I woulden’t talk!
Based on PRC’s maritime claims, is there any body of water that is NOT considered Chinese waters? 😀 I mean after all, a Nuclear sub that was spotted by the Japanese not to long ago must’ve been in Chinese waters!
Go goolge that! Japan has by far a better military than NK! Who do you think is more intimidating? NK with one or two missles or Japan who has the ability to annilate NK?
one has a responsible military the other has an irrational, irresponsible and unpredictable military.. based on your thinking, smaller nations like Vietnam, N.Korea, and S.Korea are allowed to fly missiles over China eh? :dev2: :rolleyes:
They were allies in WW2. Both are in NATO…there is no relation! BTW go ask any frenchie how they fell about the Brits and you’ll get the same answers! Ever wonder why so many French speaks english yet refuse to answer when you ask something in English?
Try living in Europe buddy 😉
Here is where i’m justified regarding your lack of insight on european history! 😀
Sources/Publications/Literature?
The Kopyo-F is’nt used on the MiG-21 and Phaz-NIIR are on the look out for customers so that they may complete development which was suspended earlier. As it is, it’s projected cost is 50% more than the Kopyo-M’s. Performance also differs based upon varying antenna sizes/variants of the Kopyo-F. The basic version’s specs,
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=26669&stc=1
It’s good to see some one here questioning the rise of baseless claims and assumptions.
T-50?
I can say i am not impressed with it.. it’s just a horrible looking beast it is.. horrible horrible. Nothing about it’s physical features scream 5th generation except perhaps a bomb bay. they might as well rebuild this

It’s cheap, it’s proven, got an interior weapons bay, and is so simple to fly that even the US president can fly one of these :dev2:
Please don’t comment if you know nothing of asian history!
if you don’t talk no one will think your deaf…
now now, no need to resort to name calling, not very mature you know, sometimes people can’t handle hearing things they don’t want to hear :diablo:
Historically Japan have always been hostile china, can’t really blame them having been so small of a mountainous country. But Japan never had the military power to actually invade China until ww2. Histrically Japanese were a tribe of priates that robbed the costal port cities, and there was almost no way of completely defeating them since they left before an army was mustered up! So yes the asian also had a very long period of war.
So the pirates represent the action of the entire Japanese nation? keeping in mind they came in an era where Japan was made up of multiple warring fiefdoms.. but then again some people just don’t know their history. I’m sure there were other non-Japanese Asian nations that harassed Chinese cities, i guess that means they aren’t allowed to have weapons hundreds of years later because of this eh? 🙂
Even if Japan developes offensive weapons you have to ask yourself what it is for. Japanese expasionism is by far much stronger than China given it’s geographical situation. Japan have no crude oil, no major mineral deposits on island. so ie no major natural resources! Japan depends solely on its industries but as you see the market has come under extreme competition! Cheap labour from china, india,etc forced many Japanese industries to relocate its factories.
As i said before Japan have no right as to develope a first strike capability, and hopefully the US government will contihue agree with me…
Yup that’s why Japan flew a missile over North Korea, and send their submarines into Chinese waters :sarcasm:
btw, it’s Colin Powell not Collen, spell it right!
of course your theory is perfect because Britain and France should be suspicious of each other’s weapons because they’ve had hundreds, if not a thousand years of conflict with each other :rolleyes: that’s why they’re such bitter enemies.
indeed the F-18 is the best aircraft on the flight deck being produced :diablo: