Two words: Rafale F2

So what A2G weapons can the Rafale F2 is CLEARED to use, is it as wide ranging as the F-18E’s selection or even the M2K’s selection, and is this F2 even in production?

We don’t need a fighter at all now. Against NATO 100 Mig-29s would be useless, even SMTs would barely be a big speed bump for them. What we need is a high tech air defense system

who said it was going to be used for NATO? Does the air force solely exist to fight NATO? Or is it that you still have some grudge against them? 😮

I don’t see the really big difference with Rafale and Typhoon, similar weights, loads, weapons nonetheless, performance, and costs.

In the future competitions, while countries like Singapore and Greece ALREADY operate F-16s, taking the block60 would be much cheaper than taking the Rafale or Typhoon. When you compare the block60 to Rafale or Typhoon, it already comes with all it’s weapons integrated and such, much like the Super Hornet.

I agree with you here, why buy a Rafale or Taifun when the Super Bug and Super Dart can do the same and do it NOW 😎
at least in terms of capabilities.

As for the Rafale and Typhoon.. some people might like the idea of having less American components in their aircraft, not to mention it being slightly cheaper, slightly more developed especially in A2G, and a whole lot more attractive than what the 4 country consortium is trying to sell..
😉

keep in mind, it’s nice making 4 countries happy..but it also a high chance of 4 country mismanagement, 4 country conflict over prices/production/etc, which amounts to 4 country red tape, 4 country lack of committment, and 4 country uncertainty 😀

And here I thought the Spanish gov’t knew better 😡 Damn you sexy people.

Effective tanker? Tomcat pilots sure think so 😀

Oh the Tomcat pilots are just bitter that a REAL American plane is taking over their roles, while adding in the tanker capability 😉 .

geez what makes you guys think that the Su-30MK would spank Turkish F-16s? especially since they have an overwhelming numerical advantage with their lawn darts?

why would they go in for a Rafale when its price is close to the Eurofighter anyways ? If finances are a reason for the deal getting cancelled, then obviously a cheaper fighter will be looked at, and what better than the Su-30MKX ?

probably because the price is not THAT close and the program is moving at a good pace.

but you’re right, Su-30X, a fast temporary solution.

How bout some one create a CG or artwork of a Flanker in that sexy Greek paint camouflage

No sense buying those now when the F-35 will do the same jobs better in a decade…except air refuelling 😀

Methinks they want an air superiority type machine. For everything else, they have the new F-16s and the upcoming JSF. Save money, buy the FLANKER, irritate your neighbors.

For some reason I thought you were an anti-JSF and pro-Rafale person 😀
surprised you reccomended the Flanker. But you are right, their F-16s are still good enough. If they want to beat the Turks, they best use their football team 😀

good, now the Greeks have time to reconsider an airplane that gives them real strike capabilities NOW, not 10 years into the future 😉

Gentlemen and my lovely Greek friends, I present to you a war veteran!