Why not local development like LCA. Either LCA is not good enough or they are playing between Dassault and Saab.
No shxt sherlock, did you come up with that all by yourself? :rolleyes: 😉
ever thought it was also.. BOTH? 😮
I wish they’d paint the aircraft into something else, like all grey like they do with production plane or the neat blue scheme of the HJT
Looks good! I really don’t see why they need the F-15, Rafale or Typhoon unless they’re aiming for equipment diversity. Their F-16’s with CFT’s should really be enough.
tis a marketing ploy ye numbnuts. How else will you convince Dassault who are intent on ripping people off :dev2:
Why did the chinese go all the way to peru for fishing?
Isnt Peru in South America and China in Asia :confused:
They go that far for fishing 😮
Fishing is fishing my friend, sometimes the best catch is in some one elses back yard 😉
I know the Japanese fishing industry also operate far from the Japanese islands.
F-18 (my sexy hamburger )
our chinese friends here are all decent people , i know no bad feelings are to happen and we know the fishing companys do not represent in any way the chinese people, they have all my respect
You are right my future PAF MiG-29 pilot! completely right, unfortunately some automatically associate fishing companies with their national origin, and I’ve already seen some users in other forums suggesting military action on Peru! 😮
I predict the winner to be Victor
Damn you sexy Greeks, I can’t understand what you guys are thinking half the time..
why need a Typhoon or Rafale when you got perfectly good and new F-16b52’s and Mirage 2000-5mk2.. it should be good enough!
I think the Ka-50 lost a lot of points with the military after the crash which killed general Vorobyov. Just like the other crash of this type, the helo went down because the counter-rotating rotor blades actually hit each other thanks to negative G maneuvring.
Comrade Hu, know if the ship based Kamov’s had these problems too?
such a shame, the benefits of two counter rotating blades blinded me from some of it’s flaws
Good for Peru! let’s hope some members don’t wet their pants on this one due to the national origins of some of these fishermen 😉
and we all know the F-18 is superior to every equivelent of it’s day.. don’t cry you Mirage 2000, F-16, Mig-29, J-8 lovers you.
nah they are all in bad condition…
being a Canadain i should care but it seems we’ve bought lemons from the Brits. Now no wonder they are so damn cheap…
One was on fire just now killing one crew and injuring others… another leaks so it can’t dive more than 160 ft, the other two are very rusted and in need of repairs!
Reworked Ming should be good… it seems they can go some distances. To japan and back without detecetion. But I still favour the improved kilo… hope the russians put AIP in it soon.
how disappointing, I thought Canada built their own subs. I’m mixed about the Kilo, I hear the Koreans were not too impressed with theirs.
so far Oyashio and Collins seem to be the better and newer operational long endurance SSK subs..
Never heard of the Walrus.. i’m also interested in what kind of Torpedos they are armed with.. after all a weapons systems is only as good as it’s weapon right? 😉
Because, Pak, there is a difference between ‘high submerged endurance’ and ‘high endurance’ as friend Burger is talking about.
High endurance, as discussed here is a function of patrol endurance and range. Again though differences exist between different geographical patrol areas. HDW list a patrol endurance of 12 weeks and a 12,000 mile surface transit range for U214 which is staggering considering its 1800 ton displacement. That is in the northern hemisphere though.
Head down to more temperate southerly waters though and air conditioning has to be used more heavily, for both human and systems happiness, putting a significantly increased drain on the battery and requiring larger fuel stowage, and correspondingly a larger hull, to accomplish the same performance.
Were I selecting an SSK for open ocean patrol tasking I’d be talking to the Japanese about their Oyashio design myself. This is mainly based on the price they’re paying for the units (over half a billion $US per unit) and the rumours of the sophistication of the sensor fit. If they are what the rumours have said then these hulls may be the closest thing to an SSN level of sensor capability to sail without a reactor!. Yes please!.
Similar things were said about the Upholder/Victoria class boats and, now the Chicoutami problem has been identified as a singular known fault and nothing design related, if the Oyashio price tag was deemed a bit excessive these look like a pretty decent package in terms of range/endurance and weapons/sensor capabilities.
interesting reply mr Jones! I agree with you too..but i am shocked with the figure of that German sub!!
The Canadian Victoria subs look good, does it have AIP (sorry can’t help it, tis the buzz word ya know)
Is one of these our hamburger munching friend
Holy Toledo!!! What are these people thinking of? They eat hamburgers with their hands!? 😮
what ever happened to a fork and knife?
oh stop bashing Google, he’s a reliable source of information, unlike certain felines
not me but i seen some of these

btw, don’t you ever check your email?