Originally posted by Ja Worsley
Ok I’ll have a go (oh BTW- this is a good one).

Taking into account the main fact that I need the force in service partially by 2008 I’d be looking at Second hand stuff to counter the Su-27 problem. To this end I’d turn to the US and ask for some second hand F-14’s.

This with the AIM-54’s could present a stand off capability for my A/F couple this with the AWG-9 radar and I could use these planes in an AWACS role like the IRIAF have done, and lsince my country is not that big, I’d get a pretty good coverage with say three planes up at any one time. I’d buy 24 F-14D’s as these would be good in providing a ground offencive capability as well as an A2A role.

For maxiumum trooplift capability, nothing in the west compairs to the Mi-26, of which 6 would be enough to give me a good sized deployment anywhere in the country. These strong work horses have the range and payload capacity for me to get what I want anywhere, and they are good for the mountains as well.

But since both Russia and America will want to try and control my politics I’d get most of my equipment from China and France whop are only interested in sales.

I’d buy Chinese Mi-17’s and Dauphans to fill my helo needs say 24 and 12 of each respectivly and as for fixed wing I’d buy 12 C-160’s and 12 Alpha jets from France in a government to government deal.

I’d also buy long range Sam’s from China and Short range ones from France this will help stop the incurssions of the Uzbeki aircraft.

As for priomary training a/c, I’d turn to New Zealand for their CT-4E’s as these offer the cheapest solution to this requirment for this I’d buy 6 planes.

F-14’s.. for a country the size of Austria? :rolleyes: like they can afford the expensive maintenance costs for such a fighter. They don’t need a large aircraft with long legs.

Marco Polo? I said send them to Venus, not Italy :confused:

and wedge on what family? there’s only two Canadians to my knwoledge, you, and Shamarji.. then there’s the occasional Sauron

given that i heard the Kyrgyz were ****ed when their leaderisimo gave some land back to China.. i don’t think choosing Chinese will be a good choice here..although the FC-1 could be ideal..

I’d be similar to Seehawk, but some changes..

I’d get some Mirage 2000-5, but in lesser numbers than what Seehawk has of MiG-29s.. the M2K has been known for performing well in high altitude missions (Kagril), and has shown that it can penetrate from Kyrgyzstan into its neighbors.. it’s also got fast up times and operational rates (very important) if you want to intercept them Uzbek bad guys and bomb rebels in the mountains. Perhaps 24-30 is good.. they should be able to get that within 5 years

After that i’ll stick with Russian.. perhaps Georgian Su-25s? or get them straight from Russia..I don’t think the Su-29 is appropriate here (too much overkill). I’d get two squadrons of these. Georgia i heard still has surplus airframes you can get fast..get em updated with Elbit stuff

helicopters will be more important here..
Mi-24 is a must with night time abilities..

however light ulitility transports is important too..and Russia doesn’t have too many of that..

so we go to the next best thing,.. PZL Sokol W-3.. probably cheap and good enough for transport. If not, then maybe the A109 would be good?

I would also reccomend the An-72.. in a land that’s got few flat land strips.. a STOL transport is important.

Originally posted by Srbin
Woah, I don’t think that high, impossible.

Anyways if thats what it comes with all the spares, maintenance and training and all the other goodies, this would make F-16s and M2Ks about the same cost and twice as more expensive than a Mig-29SMT/M1/M2 which costs about 30mn with all that, at least thats what Algeria will pay for them.

No, Algeria and India are paying 43-45 million for their M’s and K’s.
check the previous threads on the price.

Originally posted by GarryB
The fact that a country in Europe was bombed for similar policies by the same organisation (NATO) suggests an agenda now doesn’t it? Or is all that rat meat in McDs burgers effecting your thought processes?

Don’t worry Garray B.. when Estonia starts committing genocide on it’s non Estonian people, then you’ll get your wish of them being bombed :rolleyes:

sigh, finding the littlest instances and trying to compare it to an orange.. must be developing cabin fever in that isolation ain’t ya mr Coleman.

Originally posted by PRC4eva
I tink there it is Chinese..

the obvius fact is that the flight crew uniform is JUST like the one China uses, and they do look Chinese, not European..do you see any yellow or brown hair there?

This aircraft appear to be using at Blue Flag, which is an aggressor unit..

and finaly the trees there is much like what you can find in China.. Bulgaria does not look like that
they have alot of trees and steep mountains.

actually Bulgaria looks more like this

but less Brazilian and more McDonalds

Originally posted by Billy Bishop
F-26 STALMA

Poor Billy the bishop.. you do know that’s a fake right? 😮
How can a private corporation develop an aircraft, engine and it’s avionics with private money when most governments spend billions? think about it 😉

but don’t worry, you’re not as bad as a certain poster that always gets fooled by CG or PS photos of aircraft 😀

anyways keep it up Billy and rescue that girl!

don’t mind the the young Golden college boy who can’t tell the difference between an F-15 cockpit and a JH-7 cockpit.. he seems to keep mentioning me in every post despite that he tells others to ignore me 😀 besides, you wouldn’t want to associate yourself with that person who is insanely biased against your beloved Russian aircraft.

anyways, as for me being constructive on this thread.. I certainly am.. I’m being constructive in the sense that some one has to stop your “Russia-victim” syndrome from getting out of hand.. I mean.. we originally started with just Estonia and Russia, and here you brought in 5-6 other countries :rolleyes: and you can keep on crying about Estonia’s policies.. it’s their land and their policy and Kaliningrad ain’t Russian, it’s rightfully German 😀