Russians used to have canned vodka (straight, not the girlie stuff) when some brilliant tax law put state revenue on bottles of liquor… I had the stuff once (with the two Natasha’s actually), but unfortunately that was on purpose. I would have liked it really more if i would have been driving around, feeling really thirsty and decided to buy a canned softdrink for behind the wheel π
Come and think of it, it’s a miracle this didn’t happen. It’s definately the Arthur-way.
Russians used to have canned vodka (straight, not the girlie stuff) when some brilliant tax law put state revenue on bottles of liquor… I had the stuff once (with the two Natasha’s actually), but unfortunately that was on purpose. I would have liked it really more if i would have been driving around, feeling really thirsty and decided to buy a canned softdrink for behind the wheel π
Come and think of it, it’s a miracle this didn’t happen. It’s definately the Arthur-way.
Originally posted by SOC
Nah, we didn’t have it over there, sorry π
If we did, you would have known because India would probably have bought it as an interim-solution pending the purchase of their interim-aircraft carrier pending their homebuilt carriers.
Originally posted by SOC
Nah, we didn’t have it over there, sorry π
If we did, you would have known because India would probably have bought it as an interim-solution pending the purchase of their interim-aircraft carrier pending their homebuilt carriers.
You could at least have photoshopped those softdrinks into beer cans π
You could at least have photoshopped those softdrinks into beer cans π
I’ve seen the prototype being called a JJ-1 (it’s in Datang Shan), and it’s referred to as such in the compulsory China Today: Aviation Industry book. Shameless plug not benefitting me: if you can find the book, buy it. It should still be pretty easily available, i bought mine in a publishing-surplus sale in 1998 for some (converted) 8 Euros (that’s 10US$ today).
And i’ll get to Andreas – i love his work (especially on US designations), but haven’t taken time to browse through his whole site yet.
Allow me for some nitpicking…
CJ-3, CJ-5, CJ-6: Yak-18
There is no CJ-3, the CJ-6 is actually more like the Yak-52 than as the Yak-18.
J-2: MiG-15
J-4, J-5: MiG-17
The MiG-15 was never built in China, the MiG-17 was built only as J-5.
Y-10: 707
The Y-10 is actually a whole lot smaller than the 707. More like a CV880.
Y-14: An-26
Designation was dropped, should be Y-7H.
Z-5, Z-6: Mi-4
The Z-6, while being based somewhat on the Mi-4, was a completely different helicopter looking more like a Mi-8 (albeit an extremely ugly one) than anything else.
Funny is that none of China’s indigenous designs ever reached real production, one can argue that the J-8II was the first one. But the JJ-1 (jet trainer looking like a T-33-mates-Fouga), Beijing-1 (that’s the small twin-prop transport, looks like the DH Dove made love to the Il-12) and Y-10 never reached production. Of course Soviet licenses and non-licensed production was a lot cheaper and various brilliant policies during the Mao days did all they could to ruin the country, but it can’t be said that all aviation knowledge in India was imported. Unlike some other countries i can think of, including Israel (the Arava and Lavi were designed almost completely by Americans, the Westwind is a Rockwell design, the Nesher was obviously French while it were American engineers modifying it into the Kfir).
As for the drawing: duh. A little photoshop, a little drawing yourself, and a lot of quality reduction in the original and suddenly you find that some of the more gullible people think you’re Mike Badrocke!
Then i guess you’re right about it being some kind of thermal indication. Stuff like that is always very much dependent on the context, and often enough (especially if it’s in a fictional setting) it is not really worth thinking about any ‘true’ meaning. Just cool-sounding jibberish which is sometimes used to bring some life into a piece of language. Just like in Arab, a “Western Agressor” is a lot less fun than a “Western Imperialist Zionist Agressor-Dog”
Spice up your language, i’d say!
In what sense would that be?
So you want to be able to hide your **** in the bushes, eh?
I should have an old (1995 or so) issue of Vestnik Vozduchnaya Flota with some pics of the camouflaged An-22 somewhere, but i won’t be able to find that on short notice…
In the mean time, here is what i could find on the net:
Two top views, from both sides:

Possibly interesting for the camo/off-white demarcation under the nose:
Will look around further, it looks far too nice and i’m still frustrated i never saw it.
…heΒ΄s right, you mean π
I’ve taken his!
Bhuwahahahaaa!