I’ve watched this campaign here and on Facebook. Despite the fanfare, they’re not the only group trying to save the aircraft or the only group trying to keep it in Cornwall. I would love to know how they intend to put the aircraft on a pylon/plinth though – I’m wondering if any research has been done at all into how damaging this was to the Lancasters in Canada that were mounted this way.
Oh well. The tenders should all be in now, so now its just a matter of waiting.
Regards,
Rich
I doubt what eventually is produced at Yeovilton will be much more than a full scale model with Barra bits incorporated. The BBP approach was a fantastic and innovative way to do things, and I don’t think has been emulated anywhere else?
I’d be half inclined to find/build another Barracuda.
Okay, a little more thought. Try Halifax.
Picture in the interior shots.
bear in mind there’s no guarantee the frame is original to the dome though. It looks as if it was designed in order to allow the dome to hinge inward, or be removed.
Our Shackleton one is similar.

Any numbers on it?
Rich
Its just ridiculous. Everything about the MOD stinks; from top to the bottom at the moment. Their methods and way of business borders on criminal and I’m sorry to hear the Barracuda project has been subject to it.
Their loss is Bluebird’s gain.
Rich
Much as I love the back and forth on this thread its much the same arguments as we’ve heard in other places. I suppose the only way we’re really going to see who notices the Shackleton is by getting her flying and watching the reaction! Even then I don’t think we’ll be able to match the Vulcan for public support, the reach of that aircraft into the public’s conciousness is just immense. It flies and near everyone watches.
Try getting a burger at an airshow while the Vulcan is displaying… service in seconds, and no queues! :p
Regards,
Rich
Quoted for relevance…
We must remember that HLF aren’t in the business of funding a flying restoration project so whatever may be chosen must be near flyable – or at least not requiring eye-watering sums to get back in the air. Rich W and the Shackleton Group perhaps need to draw up what would, by definition, be a very short list of what could be got flying relatively easily and cheaply and use this as a tool to focus funding in their direction.
The much repeated quote about HLF is not strictly true. I know its origin, but it seems things have changed enough to allow support for a restoration to flight if it forms part of a project rather than just the whole of what you intend to do.
Kind regards,
Rich
Perhaps the first question to be resolved is not WHAT replaces the Vulcan but what is ALLOWED to replace the Vulcan
I’m unsure on what you mean by ‘allowed’. I’m pretty sure most historic aircraft that can obtain a Permit to Fly would fit the bill there.
To be fair the Vulcan is only in the public conciousness due to very well done PR efforts, and publicity in the media. When it retired in 1993, it was mainly the enthusiasts that were upset in much the same way as we’ve lamented the loss of Harrier, Jaguar, Nimrod in recent years. The Vulcan project struggled hard and nearly ended in 2006 when it seemed they had run out of money.
We don’t expect to get the same level of public support as the Vulcan did/does, as we don’t think it can be repeated. The Shack isn’t loud enough, or as futuristic looking to grab people’s attention; and it would probably (still) get misidentified as a Lancaster… WL790 in the USA was misdentified that many times at one point they gave up and changed their callsign to “Lancaster”!!
Our plan is from the outset not to rely on public support. Its an unsustainable model in the long term for continuous operation of a single aircraft of a single type. We do have a steady number of supporters who donate to the project because they want to; but this is bolstered by income that is growing steadily from careful use of our archive material and continuing to make the best of the resources we have. We approached the HLF some time back regarding funding, and I spoke with them yesterday regarding our application and when it is being submitted – they’re still quite happy with things, and the indication given from our project enquiry was that we do have a project which they would fund.
As for how long we can maintain people’s interest once the aircraft is flying – well, thats a crystal ball question. We’ll have to see when it happens. If the rules change regarding passenger flights in historic aircraft that will make possibilities for our aircraft even better, but its a big “if”!
Kind regards,
Rich W
Nice to see so many people mentioning the Shackleton. Thanks chaps, its appreciated.
Unit Equipment Table
“The Unit Equipment Table (UET) lists a unit’s entitlement to equipment and is unique to that unit.”
Its an abbreviation that is still current within the MOD, this is the description given in JSP886 (Defence Logistics Support Chain Manual.)
Hi Peter, the bigger one certainly looks like the half radiator used on a Shack. Do you have any part numbers?
Edit to add: It looks similar, but it appears its not a Shack rad. The hose fittings and mount points are in different places.
Regards,
Rich
Hi all,
I realise that is a while since I’ve posted an update on here, so thought I’d better make a bit of time and get some words down!
Things have been a bit hectic with our Shackleton leaving little time to do much other than replenishing fluids and nitrogen, before it was time to run her up again. So far we’ve run up every two weeks since September, with the last one being Sunday evening when we ran the engines at dusk for a small group of photograhers. But now we can rest for a week before we get stuck into the winter servicing and the snag list; and we have a few – most turning up in the last run.
Top of the list is the No 4 propeller. Its long been sluggish to respond, and now it has also has a failed intershaft bearing seal, resulting in oil all over the cowling, rear spinner and prop blades. So, it’ll have to come off. We have a hydraulic weep on the flap cylinder, which is going to be a pain to replace but at least its inside the aircraft. Then there’s the jacking for the port mainwheel’s brake issue. Plenty to keep us busy.
In between all this we have various parts to collect from around the UK and beyond, the NDT inspections to get cracking on ( a new schedule is being worked out, as we can filter out anything specific to WL747, 756, 757, 790 from the list) and lastly there’s a couple of us still valiantly working away at the paperwork required to make official progress towards flight. Drafts for things such as an Organisational Control Manual are well under way.
Next work day is the 29th, we’ll have the spanners out, and the camera.
Regards
Rich
Some photo’s from night run can be found at this link:
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Good luck to them, if your source is correct. Bear in mind it seems to be contrary to all other sources though, so don’t hold your breath (you’ll go a funny colour).
Regards,
Rich