A comeback tour!
Part of me wonders how good that Wellington would look in Coastal Command colours at the side of WR963…
I don’t mind at all, but they’re not my photos so do be careful! Copyright is marked on them by the photographer.
The casting is broadly similar to a Canberra leg with only detail differences for operating the undercarriage doors and a lack of mudguards.
We sent a genuine – if slightly tatty – Shackleton top casting down to St Mawgan a year or so ago. I was told at the time that the issue with its repair was that the CAS didn’t have manpower or authority to jack the aircraft, and the RAF don’t have a budget for gate guards so wouldn’t carry out the work themselves. We offered to sort it out as we had recently repaired WR963’s tailwheel leg from a similar state, but then the rumours of replacement of WL795 started and we were asked to wait.
Yup. Its been rumoured for a while that the RAF have been thinking of replacing her. More so since the recent issues with the undercarriage.
Its something that can enhance or destroy a display, there is a very fine line.
I think setting and choice of tune are important… I went to “Anthems” at RAF Cranwell a couple of years ago, and having the Band of the RAF College playing Spitfire Prelude as a Spitfire did one of the most elegant displays I’ve ever seen overhead (against a setting sun…) was awesome and quite emotional. It was probably the best and most subtle mix of Merlin and music I’ve ever witnessed; and no commentary at all to any of it. It had obviously been well planned and choreographed and needed no words adding as explanation.
The fact it wasn’t crackling and echoing out of hastily rigged tannoy/PA speakers helped too.
Tony Nash of our Shack team at Coventry was heavily involved with XJ729’s restoration to flight some years ago. It was fantastic to see it flying at Waddington!
Its a wonderful memorial. We have a single Shack tail fin in a box, you don’t realise just how huge they are until you’re stood at the side of one when the rest of the Shack isn’t attached.
Shackleton VP293 – scrapped. Nose section still exists.Duxford?
VP293 lives at Coventry for the most part, though still gets about the country occasionally.
The photograph on the Duxford thread entitled – “Shackleton MR.3/3 XF708 has started the journey into storage:” reminded me that whilst at NAM today I noticed that some ‘high-level’ work was underway on Shackleton MR.3 Phase 3, WR977 to replace the ‘long’ damaged main cockpit window screen.
This has been made possible thanks to assistance from the team down at Coventry – thanks gents! :applause:
Glad we could help! We’re still on the lookout for a few more glazing panels for your Shacketon that our spares manifest says we should have in store (and that currently we can’t find.)
Also we have a batch of Ashton drawings ready to bring over, though so far most of them seem to be tailplane.
Regards,
Rich
The midupper was taken out as where it protruded into the fuselage impeded the fitting of an overload fuel tank, taken from a Vickers Wellington. Its hardly a field mod, as even as early as Chastise there were Lancasters without midupper turrets. The only portion left in situ is the mounting ring which is built into the fuselage structure – and its still there on site.
The turret frame shown in the documentary is all thats left of the FN5 front turret.
Your argument of leaving NF920 be doesn’t stand up. If its left there it will end up the same as many UK high ground wrecks that are protected, yet pilfered relentlessly. In the absence of a genuine Operation Chastise Lancaster, some of a 617 Sqn aircraft is better than none. NF920 isn’t a war grave, but she’s the last example of any bomber variant of Lancaster other than standard. If future generations want to be able to visit it, see it, be close as they can get to a genuine piece of history; then someone somewhere needs to pull their finger out and get it out the swamp.
Whether thats into Porjus, Tromso, UK, Australia… wherever.
Hi All,
….Coventry based WR963, talking of which with only 594 Flying Hr’s left how could you extend that or would it mean a main spar change ?Geoff.
Hi Geoff
You would carry out the works detailed in the Shackleton Fatigue Remediation Programme, used during Phase III conversion at Langar and again during the AEW.2 overhauls at Bitteswell. It encompasses replacement of mainplane spar booms, joints, and attachment heardware, horizontal tail spar booms, vertical fin posts and the attachments for them. There’s also a host of other stuff including engine frame bolts, undercarriage bearers… but basically you could rebuild any Shackleton MR.2/AEW.2 to have anywhere between 4,500 – 6,600 hours to use on it depending on how it is flown.
Its expensive work though.
Regards,
Rich
The renewed interest in NF920 “Easy Elsie” following John Nichols documentary is a double edged sword. Its good that the enthusiasm is there to see her recovered, but its bad that it told a lot of unaware people where a substantially complete and accessible Lanc wreck is, and has made what was an impossible task harder.
I went on the Facebook page, and tried several times to hammer into people on there how many different agencies were involved last time round. This time, they’re even more likely to want the remains to stay in Sweden and block the recovery at a higher level. It seems to have fell to a large extent on deaf ears, people are already claiming it as ‘our’ bomber and petitions have started, etc. I don’t have time for it, or some of the squabbles its started to generate. More importantly – to me – I can’t afford to take my focus off the ball with the Shackleton at Coventry.
Despite this I’ve recently written a few letters to places (which anyone else could find and contact with a little effort) to establish if circumstances have changed significantly since last time, and will pass the results on; assuming I get a reply. That will be my last action on this project. I still hope someone, somewhere, brings NF920 in from the swamp. But my bet is she will find her way into Porjus, or the Swedish Air Force Museum will wake up and take the lot before its gone to souveneir hunters and the elements.
Regards,
Rich
Its been playing on there for a couple of weeks now. Its a pretty good documentary.
Yes, its sorted, but I’ll be checking things over again a few days beforehand for my own peace of mind and to make sure none of the joints are weeping. We’ve also had some nitrogen delivered to site, so we can get the oleos and pneumatic system topped up again.
Hi all,
As our Shackleton now has serviceable hydraulics again, we’ll be running WR963 up on Saturday the 14th June. Engine start will be at 1pm.
Regards
Rich