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  • in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #1014737
    richw_82
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    I haven’t got the slightest idea if this might help, but when doing a quick google on the PTR1751 you refered to Rich, I came across an ebay link to what looks an impressive set-up using that?

    Thanks for the link! TonyT also brought it up in another thread, and we are chasing it.

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #931188
    richw_82
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    Its just in regards to accurate colour schemes when operating military aircraft. You have to submit the colours of the aircraft and evidence to support it to the RAF. We don’t want to cause ourselves problems further down the line, so we’re taking steps to get it that bit closer.

    The red spinners are okay as 224 Sqn aircraft did carry them (WR963’s pilot from that period can’t recall if she did or not) but the glare panel is definitely wrong and has to go.

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #931305
    richw_82
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    Hi all,

    What with a new year upon us, I figure its long past update time. While we haven’t been too busy on the aircraft herself over the past few months, various things are going on in the background that will have big effects over the next few years.

    First up are the obvious problems we ran into during taxying. 2014 sees WR963 celebrate her 60th birthday, so we need little to no shenanigans from her.

    The persistant issues with the fuel priming pump are becoming tedious; and while we can swap them out again and again it is becoming repetitive, and we’re decimating the available stock. The priming pumps are comprised of three sections – pump, gearbox, and motor. The failure comes when the pump sits and moisture accumulates in it as its at the lowest point in the fuel system. The pump gets stiff, or seizes, then the fibre gears in the gearbox strip and the pump is then unserviceable. This usually blows the fuse, and is usually why we end up with no engines running (if the starboard pump fails), or just two on one side if we get No 3 and 4 started then the port pump fails…

    While I’m led to believe it was a weak point, while the Shackleton was in service it wasn’t as often as we get. The factors of regular usage and full fuel tanks helped a lot. With an aircraft that is stationary, and on half fuel load at best, there are a lot of places for moisture – be it condensation or rain – to get in. WL790 in the USA suffered similarly and her pumps were replaced with an item that was a little more hard wearing. Our plan is slightly different. Wired in with the power to the fuel priming pump, we now have a cut-off valve that isolates the fuel supply, only alolowing fuel to flow when the priming pump is switched on. In the next few weeks, we’ll have the pipes made up to put these into the system. We’ve also sent one pump away for use as a pattern to have some new gears made that are slightly harder wearing than the original fibre items.

    The communication problems turned out to be due to the fact all three V/UHF systems on WR963 had been altered or cannibalised at some point. The rear upper VHF antennae has been removed, as has much of the wiring including that to the set carried in the beam position. Some of it was used on DC-3 G-ANAF many years ago, some of it went to WL790. We’re now at a point where the PTR 175 is working, the PTR 1751 is getting there, but there remains an intermittent problem somewhere where the intercom system links to the radio – it will be tracked down!

    We’ve started working through the spares we hold, and rather than hang on to everything, we have been slowly dispersing some of the multiples of certain items out to other groups. Wheels, coolant tanks, a rear spinner and some glazing items have all gone – which has involved some heavy lifting as there was no room for forklift work! Thankfully, Ben Nash (Nashio966) and a few others were on hand to help with that. We are discovering more as we go – including a number of hydraulic spares which WR963 really needs, though no doubt we’ll find even more as we disperse some more items and clear out empty boxes.

    Ahead of us we still have plenty to do – there’s still the bomb doors to look at, as their stumpy length is starting to annoy us all. WR963’s anti-glare panel and a couple of other areas are getting revised to make the RAF happy, and with three years passed since the repaint, a thourough wash and a few bits of ceconite taping are on the cards to keep her looking good. I was threatened with bodily harm by some members of the Shackleton Association who preferred her to carry the ‘used’ look, but you can only let things go so far! (that, and I’m pretty sure I can outrun most of the Shack Assn..)

    I haven’t forgotten the various requests we’ve had, or promises we made for Avro stores carriers, Avro Ashton, and a couple of other drawings. As soon as I can get to it, I will make it available. The archive is still a mess following our move, but its slowly coming back into order, more so as we wade through trying to find out all WR963’s records.

    Following the decision to try to return WR963 to flight, two things asked of us by the CAA were a complete audit of all lifed components on the aircraft, and an assessment covering pre and post spar boom replacement and how it would change things for WR963. This was difficult to accomplish as there were large gaps in our records, then we had a surprising breakthrough in the form of some legacy documentation from our friends at Gatwick Aviation Museum. One of WR963’s old MOD Form 700, covering her life from her conversion to AEW2 to near the end, and, almost to top that, fatigue meter readings for the entire period.

    The result is that for the first time, we can pin down accurately how many hours are left on the lower spar booms, and a proven fatigue index worked out from meter readings taken from a 20 year period. The FI is yet to be calculated, as we have to find the calculation for the upper spar booms – a calculation that was taken from that for the AWA 650 Argosy Series 101, due to the Argosy’s wing starting life as the Avro Type 733 (If anyone has the Argosy FI calculations, I’d love to see them). When spar boom cracks were found as the hours mounted, a calculation was done to work out the safe life of the top booms – which was then supplied to the MOD (PE) Central Defects Authority to check against Shackletons. This is the missing piece of our puzzle…!

    The new piece, happily, is that WR963 has 594 hours left on her lower spar booms…

    For those that want to come and see WR963 and talk all things Shackleton, we next intend to carry out a run up on 25th January 2014, at 1300 hrs.

    Happy New Year,

    Rich W
    SPT

    in reply to: Wasn't there someone asking about PTR175. #931412
    richw_82
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    Hi Tony,

    Thanks again, but I think we’re sorted for PTR 175 now, thanks to AP’s provided by several people, and parts we acquired from a variety of sources. We’re working on the PTR 1751 now.

    Regards,

    Rich

    in reply to: Wasn't there someone asking about PTR175. #931452
    richw_82
    Participant

    Hi Tony,

    It was us over at Coventry, trying to put the radios right on WR963 (cheers peppermint_jam!).

    Thanks for the heads up on that ebay link, I’ll pass it on to those within our group that deal with the bleeping noises!

    Regards,

    Rich

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #939335
    richw_82
    Participant

    Hi Howard,

    We’re still working through them, of the three V/UHF systems on the aircraft, it turned out only one was complete and unmolested. If I could still have those photocopies it would be a great help. I’ve pm’d you the best postal address.

    Merry Christmas,

    Rich

    in reply to: Preservation of our Industrial Heritage #964610
    richw_82
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    Hi chaps,

    The way I see it with regards to the future there are two areas here, which sometimes co-incide. On the one hand you have the people that want to make a career out of aviation. On the other you have those that are enthusaists.

    One group are largely going to be focussed on making the best of their career, making a good wage, and their interest in preservation will be only minor – as often you don’t want to do your day job after hours (and that goes for most jobs). Their looking at heritage will most likely be looking at what went before from a development aspect in finding out how aircraft got to what they work on. They will be the people who will turn to preservation AFTER they have got where they want in a career. I think this is possibly why there is a surge in preserved Cold War jets now; there are a lot of ex-Forces personnel out there now looking after kit they kicked, cursed and bashed into shape on a daily basis years ago.

    The other group will be people like a lot of us. Never really pursuing a career with modern aviation, because we were born looking back. The sounds, smells, sights, and stories of historic aviation got under our skin – but as there’s precious few job opportunities out there in that world, we looked to museums, to archeology. We learn the skills needed to preserve the aircraft (or artefacts associated with them) out of necessity – they must survive for future generations. To ensure this we have to make efforts to find and keep alive the desire to do the same in those younger than ourselves. The hardest point of doing this is often removing the percieved barrier. “How do I get to join in?” “How did you get to work on that?” “Who do I ask if I want to do something like that?”

    I’m a firm believer in ‘live’ exhibits. Ground running engines, taxying aircraft – and also things like the “Fun ‘n’ Flight gallery at RAFM Cosford. I also think that the lack of funding available for things like the NAHSI in the UK is something that needs attention, especially given the renewed focus on engineering in this country. Something being technical doesn’t frighten the younger generation off… far from it. Correctly explained they will thrive on knowledge given half the chance, having already been in a learning environment for most of the first two decades of their life.

    Regards,

    Rich

    in reply to: Aircraft for sale at Gatwick Museum. #969427
    richw_82
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    Everything is crossed!! Has Andy contacted you yet re prop matters etc mate? pm me if not, and I will give you his mail address 🙂

    I contacted him on Facebook, but haven’t heard anything for a while. Our prop tools are waiting for when you need them – I’m still trying to find any bits of engine lifting beams we have kicking about. Just drop me a line on here, FB, or my email at biggles2000_99 (at) yahoo.com when you’re ready.

    Rich

    in reply to: Aircraft for sale at Gatwick Museum. #970945
    richw_82
    Participant

    That plan looks great, I hope GAM pull it off. Fingers crossed for them!

    in reply to: How many people have 'played' with Griffon engines? #971597
    richw_82
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    Wind tunnel usage in Dubai and in the UK at various sites – including a couple still being used.

    richw_82
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    Wonderful photo, but I don’t think its the last time that three flew together.. the Canadians, French, and Argentinans were still operating Lancasters into the early 1960’s.

    Regards,

    Rich

    in reply to: Help required: PTR-175 or PTR-1751 #979077
    richw_82
    Participant

    Hi chaps,

    Thanks for the responses and work on our behalf.

    TerryP – those manuals would be extremely useful, if I could have copies that would be excellent. I’ve Pm’d you my e-mail.

    Howard – is there any chance we could have a copy of the part of the AP that details the checks? We think the problem may be in one of the interconnecting boxes.. the cabling all checks out, but for some reason there’s no speech getting through when you press ‘transmit.’

    Kind regards,

    Rich

    in reply to: Help required: PTR-175 or PTR-1751 #984871
    richw_82
    Participant

    Thanks chaps! Plenty to follow up.

    in reply to: Help required: PTR-175 or PTR-1751 #985039
    richw_82
    Participant

    Hi Howard,

    Thanks for both links. It looks like one of our team working along similar lines, as its top of our priority list at the moment.

    Regards,

    Rich

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #995987
    richw_82
    Participant

    Thanks Swifter! There’s plenty more to come.

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