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  • in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063402
    sealordlawrence
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    You are the one who claimed that the F124 radar was superior to AEGIS (admittedly you were to ill-informed to put the comment in context) but it is widely accepted that the spanish opted for SPY-1D becouse of its superiority over the radar used by the F124 and the new Dutch destroyers.
    If the germans are paying twice the amount for the F124 as the spanish are for the F100 then the germas realy are being ripped of, as the F100 has 16 more Mark41 VLS cells and a bigger main gun (the US 5inch). The F100 is far superior to the F124.
    Oh and the F125 will be more comparable to whatever the British fainally decide to do to replace the Type22/23 rather than the type 45.

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063411
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    This isnt that difficult, the AEGIS variants,

    SPY-1K, intended for corvettes and other small craft. Will possibly be used by the south koreans otherwise no customers as yet. The least capable version.

    SPY-1F, intended for frigate size ships used by the norwegian nansen class ships. This is the variant of AEGIS that the F124’s radar is said to be better than, it is less capable than the SPY-1D.

    SPY-1D, this is the destroyer variant, used by the USN, the japanese congos, spanish F100, KDX-3 and the Australian AWD. It is more capable than the F124’s radar that is why the spanish chose it. It is claimed in some quarters that the Sampson radar is superior to the SPY-1D but as I said this is impossible to prove or disprove at the moment. So yes the Sampson radar is far superior to the F124’s. do you get it now or does it still confuse you? :p :rolleyes:

    I will agree with you that the F124 is better at close in defence, the problem is that it is meant to be an area air defence destroyer. :p :rolleyes: . And its close in capability is not as superior as you maintain, the Phalanx is a perfectly capable system and ASTER perfectly capable (especially the 15 variant) of providing close in defence. :p

    The Sylver cells are just as flexible as the Germsn Mk41s as the germans only have the ESSM and the SM2. It is highly unlikely that the German government will opt for Tomahawk and unless the F124 has the dtrike length cells it cant use Tomahawk anyway. so your VLS argument is pointless :p . I have already explained about the Harpoon issue, so I wont do it again, but I would just like to ask if you have ever heard of the ‘fitted for but not with principle’? :p :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063417
    sealordlawrence
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    So to sumarize mark1100’s argument is that bEcouse the F124 has a smaller calibre gun, less VLS cells, can carry the same ASuW armament as the T45, has an inferior radar, and has less range (by over 3000NM), it is some how better than the T45. :p

    In order to further his already flawed argument, he points to things that he cannot prove will in the future be fitted to the F124 (GMLRS) and if they are will only equal what the T45 will be fitted with (155mm gun, UAV’S). :rolleyes:

    The only real advantage the F124 has is that it can carry 2 helos as opposed to one (there you go steve 😉 )

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063419
    sealordlawrence
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    The F124’s radar is said to be superior to the SPY-1F which is not the much more capable D version used by destroyers, it has been claimed the Sampson is superior to the D version (although this is difficult to prove as specs for both are scarce) so yes the Sampson is far superior to the F124’s radar. Ultimately the T45 could carry 72 aster-30s but the F124 could carry just 32 SM-2’s, these ships are intended for area air defence. a role for which the ESSM is less than suited.
    Do you have a source stating that the Monarch or the GMLRS will be installed on the F124 rather than concept poroving operations on incomplete ships?
    The T-45 will be able to operate UAV,s in the same way as the F124.

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063433
    sealordlawrence
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    Wow so an F124 temporarily had a 155mm gun mounted when she was carrying little other equipment, and it still only amounts to the same as what a T45 can carry in the future.

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2591843
    sealordlawrence
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    As I have said time and again, the BARS-29 has only one advantage and that is its commonality with the BARS-M on the MKI, otherwise the Phazotron Zhuk-MFE has far superior performance and Phazotron are claiming that they will be able to fly a Mig-29 AESA sometime on 2007.

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063435
    sealordlawrence
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    The ship in the picture is not an F124 and the source says nothing about putting a 155mm gun on the F124, I would be amazed if there was even space for that to happen on the F124. The weapons layout is very similar to the Type 45 with the minor exception of the CIWS layout and ASuW missile location.

    How exactly does the F124 have mor punch? it can only carry 32 VLS cells to the T45’s 72, both can carry the same ASuW missiles (both type an quantity), Both have two CIWS systems, and the T45 has a larger calibre main gun, not to metion a better radae system.

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063452
    sealordlawrence
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    Type-45 can andd will likely in the future be fitted with Harpoon, and is likely to recieve eith a 155mm gun or the American 5 inch gun. Can we have a source for the Pzh2000 turret on the F124?
    Type-45 has space for LACMs and could in the future be fitted with Mk-41s for essm if the requirement ever came up.

    So of your five remarks, 1 and 3 are irrelevant, and 5 is unproved and probably irrelevant even if it is proved.

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2591912
    sealordlawrence
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    BARS-29 IS NOT AESA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063469
    sealordlawrence
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    Type-45 is bigger, can carry more VLS cells and has a better radar and a bigger gun, question answered.

    in reply to: AESA fighter radars #2592300
    sealordlawrence
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    I am pretty sure that one is the Koypo-F along with the Zhuk-MFE/MFSE they are not active but passive.

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2592458
    sealordlawrence
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    I would be amazed if the US offered anything near the level of tech transfer that Russia will likely do, so that basically rules out the US option. NORA is likely a very long way of, and Rafale prohibitively expensive. Personally I would go for the Mig-35.

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2592472
    sealordlawrence
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    Its a mistake stealth, the BARS-29 isnt AESA. 😉

    The official Mig website dosnt mention the Mig-35 yet, but it does say that the M/M2 have a maximum load of 4500kg. It is pluasable that the structural changes the Mig-35 is to recieve could increase capacity but I remain sceptical.

    in reply to: Type 45 launch website #2063533
    sealordlawrence
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    and more expensive 😉

    StIll Il keep praying the F5.

    in reply to: Type 45 launch website #2063555
    sealordlawrence
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    I would like the follow on to the T-45 to be the BMT defence services F5 pentmaran frigate with the fixed five faced zenith Sampson arrangement (and no EMPAR), with 96 Sylver A-70 VLS cells, Starstreak inner layer defense system, a 52 calibre 155mm main gun and lots of ASW goodies including the ability to operate 2 Merlins and maybe even Apache, but it aint gonna happen. Oh well its a sweet dream. 🙁

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