looks nice indeed….so these aircraft going to do Australia direct right?
Originally posted by Hand87_5
Correct: The B717 (ex MD95) is a brand new jet compared to the old DC9 or the MD80 series.Modern avionic , state of art engines etc …
It is one of the most efficient fuel comsumption in the industry.However , what woul be a 717-300? Some kind of “lower range” 737-700 ?
If someone has more infos , I’m interested…
agreed about 717…modern avionics, engines….but its not a whole new aircraft.
B717-300 will be something similar to B736 i think?
tenthije thanx for the info.
I think A340 has more in the bag than the 777……can anyone shed some light on this?
I went to the mall to get some Pepsi……. i think they moved the mall cause i couldnt find it.
I went to the mall to get some Pepsi……. i think they moved the mall cause i couldnt find it.
Sky Diving – 10
Bungee – 6
performing at The Great Indian Rock – 10
SAS MD 80 flight from Oslo to Bodo (AMAZING) – 10
Sky Diving – 10
Bungee – 6
performing at The Great Indian Rock – 10
SAS MD 80 flight from Oslo to Bodo (AMAZING) – 10
Originally posted by PhantomII
I’d be interested in seeing what area of the market Boeing has not covered or a new design as well Kabir.I still feel a double standard in favor of Airbus.
The A320, A321, A319, A318 are all essentially shortened and lengthened versions of the same airplane just like Boeing did with the 737 and Douglas did with the DC-9.
The A300 and A310 are very similar, with length being the big difference again.
Then you have the A330 and A340 which is only different in terms of engines used.
And an old airframe isn’t a big issue if its proven and they are still making new ones.
These 717’s are brand-new. They aren’t 35 year old DC-9’s.
And the 777? What does Airbus have that compares in both capacity and range?
The A340-600 might be close, but that’s pushing it.
And until the A380 comes out the 747 is still jumbo king, and we’ll just have to wait until the 7E7 comes out to see what it holds.
You’re being premature in your judgements.
Just because Airbus is getting more sales now doesn’t mean that will continue.
You are completely missing my point.
What i am trying to say is even if Boeing has covered all the areas, they are not covering them with economical solutions.
The B717 IS NOT brand new…its the MD 95 (or 85?) refurbished thats all.
The 777…Airbus has the A340 series which unfortunately is geting more sales than the B777. Although agreed B777 is much better than A340…but the economics of A340 are better.
About the B747…lets face it its time is up….the A380 will be out in 2006, the only few orders the B747 is geting are for the ER and F versions.
The question is not really of class here…….. is the aircraft offered in that class is economicaly competative with Airbus.
Boeings short-haul fleet is, the midium size is where Boeing is very much loosing it. They have the B767 and the B777 to offer which are loosing out to A330/A340, simply because the Airbus series is more conomical than Boeing even though its not as good as Boeing.
Airline today look at economics more than total passenger comfort agree or not, and bringing old airframes of MD’s into the market will not help Boeing in gaining that economical edge over Airbus.
See it this way, Airbus A320 family offers the A318, 319, 320 and 321….. each aircrafts fits a particular role…. Boeing tried the same..B737 500/600, which failed, both the aircrafts were guzling gas more than expected.
The A320 and family share the same base, but with total different parts given to them and them being designed for those roles itself.
The B737 500/600 did not do this, they were from same base as B737-400, and they were not customized as much to suit the roles what airlines were looking for.
sittin on my roof today saw some good planes for this…sorry couldnt get any reg.
Afghanistan B727
Saudi B747
Royal Nepal B757
and highlight of the day…….
Cambodian DC 10!!
If they have every class covered up in competition with Airbus then why are they loosing the market share?
Originally posted by robc
Come on everyone lets not be so harsh on Boeing remember that their head competitor is heavily government funded, but yeah Boeing could try harder, but then again, what new airframe is there to invent ?
Boeing has done it in the past…… why not now.
Oh please dont tell me the guys in Boeing have goten that dumb they cant come out with new airframes, when Airbus can do it so can they.
good for Swiss!
MAX PAYNE 2!!!!!
I kow its out but havent got it yet!:rolleyes:
MAX PAYNE 2!!!!!
I kow its out but havent got it yet!:rolleyes: