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  • in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #539097
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    Has to be a removal LD container, as far as i know the AF 330s don’t have standard crew rest areas.

    in reply to: General Discussion #333702
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    But..but…they are hitting us and stuff Steve. :p

    in reply to: Come on down Lads…i told you so!!! #1908961
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    But..but…they are hitting us and stuff Steve. :p

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #539189
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    Divers Recover Telling Debris From Air France
    Published: June 8, 2009
    SÃO PAULO, Brazil — Brazilian divers have recovered a distinctive red- and blue-striped section of the tail of the Air France jetliner that crashed in the Atlantic Ocean last week, a find that may help investigators narrow the hunt for the plane’s voice and data recorders.

    Also on Monday, Brazilian military lowered its count of the number of bodies recovered so far to 16 from the 17 it had announced on Sunday. All 228 people who were aboard the plane are presumed dead.

    Photographs released Monday by the Brazilian military showed a team of divers and sailors on a rubber dinghy tying a rope around what appeared to be the vertical stabilizer from the tail section of the plane. The part, which bears the trademark stripes and logo of Air France, bore no evident burn marks and retained its triangular shape, save for a chunk missing where it appeared to have been torn from the body of the plane.

    Another photograph of recovered debris released by the military showed chunks of orange, white and cream-colored wreckage amid a tangle of wires and crushed tubes.

    The flight recorders are generally kept in the tail section of the plane, so the finding of the tail section may help to narrow the search in the ocean’s deep waters. The flight recorders represent investigators’ best hope for discovering why the plane went down on May 31, in stormy, turbulent weather.

    A team of American Navy searchers is being flown in along with two devices that can detect emergency beacons to a depth of 20,000 feet, according to the Pentagon, The Associated Press reported. They will be delivered to ships that will then listen for transmissions from the black boxes, which are programmed to emit signals for at least three more weeks.

    The Brazilian frigate Constituição was carrying the recovered remains, officials said, and was scheduled to arrive Tuesday on the island of Fernando de Noronha, a few hundred miles from where officials are centering the search for wreckage. From there, the remains will be flown to Recife to be examined by forensic and medical experts. Wing fragments and hundreds of personal items believed to be from passengers have also been found.

    France is leading the investigation into the cause of the crash, while Brazilian officials are focusing on the recovery of victims and wreckage. Officials said that five ships from the two countries are combing a defined search area, and 14 airplanes are scouring that area and adjacent ones.

    “The government is going to continue with its efforts, via the navy and via the air force, to find, if possible, all the bodies, because we know what it means for a family to receive the remains a missing loved one,” Brazil’s president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, said Monday in his weekly radio address. “At this painful time it won’t solve the problem, but it is an immense comfort to a family knowing that is burying its loved one.”

    On Sunday, Dominique Bussereau, the French secretary of state for transportation, told RTL radio that the authorities were focusing on a transmission from the plane, during the last minutes of flight, indicating that airspeed readings on its onboard systems were inconsistent.

    “The series of readings represent the only real element for investigators at this moment,” he said. In particular, they were reviewing the performance of a Pitot tube, part of the speed measurement system.

    “There have been situations on Airbus planes, and perhaps on others, where these tubes no longer indicated the airspeed because it entered a humid area, a low-pressure area, an area of turbulence,” he added. If the Flight 447 pilots could not read the correct speed, the plane could have been flying too slowly or too fast, with deadly results.

    French investigators announced Saturday that the plane had been scheduled to have its Pitot tube replaced, but it remained unclear whether the part had malfunctioned or had anything to do with the crash.

    The ocean floor where the debris is being recovered is a tangle of mountains towering two miles above ocean valleys, which will make the recovery of the flight recorders — or black boxes — very difficult. The recovery, however, is paramount for investigators, as without them, said James T. Francis, a member of the National Transportation Safety Board, the Air France case will be “a tough, tough cookie.”

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #539298
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    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/06/08/world/plane.650.1.jpg

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #539561
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    does the A330 even have crew rest areas?

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #539576
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    news just breaking..2 bodies found along with some wreckage.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8087303.stm

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #539750
    KabirT
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    Also remember a long time ago a VC 10 (?) that had its nose section separated from the aircraft due to hail.

    Continuing on the lighter note part by Steve if i may…. a news channel here theorized the cause of the disappearance to the shifting of the Bermuda Triangle phenomenon to the Brazilian coast.

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #540111
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    Air France jet’s flight-control system under scrutiny
    Automated messages before the crash point to a failure of the system that flies the plane most of the time, experts say. Weather looks like less of a factor.
    By Ralph Vartabedian
    June 5, 2009

    A sophisticated flight-control system that relies on electronic instruments and computers came under growing scrutiny Thursday as investigators tried to unravel the mysterious crash of an Air France Airbus 330 into the Atlantic.

    A series of messages sent automatically by the jet moments before it plunged into the ocean late Sunday with 228 passengers and crew members aboard has raised speculation that the crash might have involved a malfunction of the automated system that flies the plane most of the time.

    One of the messages reported that one of the plane’s navigational control units had failed and that, almost simultaneously, the autopilot system had disengaged.

    The sequence of events forced the crew of Flight 447 to fly the jet manually, a difficult task on an Airbus traveling at high altitude near its maximum speed, aviation experts said. Any significant change in airspeed could have caused the plane to lose lift or stability, both potentially deadly conditions.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-brazil-crash5-2009jun05,0,6741218.story

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #540129
    KabirT
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    back to square one it seems.

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #543052
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    What do the tech people here think of the multiple lightning strike theory? Can it lead to electrical failure which in turn may lead to loss of cabin pressure.

    It is very clear that the aircraft went down very quickly. Somehow the theories being suggested so far don’t seem to be convincing.

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #543750
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    Air France said there is no chance to find the plane.
    Lost off the Moroccan coast.

    It’s of course F-GZCP

    The French transport Minister is on the way to Air France headquarter at CDG.

    Probably a sad announcement will then be made.

    taken from a.net by a French user.

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #543757
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    situation looks bleak as of now.

    in reply to: AF447 (Merged) #543965
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    Its out of the radar for 4 hours or so now. This is not looking good.

    in reply to: Airbus claims the A380 to be a success #544836
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    It also has to be taken into account the amount of compensation Airbus has been offering for the delay of the 380s. SQ got those A330s at throw away prices from Airbus on this account.

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