Originally posted by Sauron
I always get a kick out of the way some anti-US types react when one of their outrageous and unsupported claims is challenged or when a point is made that their can’t counter. They accuse the other person of intransigence, get all moral and huffy, make character judgements about folks they don’t know and start name calling like children.Then, their are those that believe dancing and dodging around every point and constantly changing the subject, makes for good arguement.
Thankfully their are others who take a more balanced approach which makes visited here worthwhile.
Just my opinion.
Regards
Sauron
Really? I was going to say just the same. I always get a kick out of the way some anti-intellectual types react when one of their outrageous and unsupported claims is challenged or when a point is made that their can’t counter. Funny when they can’t counter historical facts and have no recourse but to call the other person a commie, or follower of Noam Chomsky, which is the same.:)
Here’s an example of a typical conversation with Sauron:
Person: Well, I don’t think the US was justified in going to Iraq.
Sauron: What? Anti-US rhetoric- he’s a commie! No criticizing of the US allowed, and no, I don’t have any historical claims to back up my opinons.
Person: The US has overthrown democracies in Iran and Guatemala to install dictatorships.
Sauron: I’m not going to bother doing the research for that since you’re obviously a commie, and those facts are wrong. Throw him into that lake boys! If he floats, he’s a commie- kill him. if he sinks, well, that’ll teach ’em.
Sounds like you’re a fan of the Alien & Sedition act of 1798.
Cheers.
Originally posted by Sauron
I always get a kick out of the way some anti-US types react when one of their outrageous and unsupported claims is challenged or when a point is made that their can’t counter. They accuse the other person of intransigence, get all moral and huffy, make character judgements about folks they don’t know and start name calling like children.Then, their are those that believe dancing and dodging around every point and constantly changing the subject, makes for good arguement.
Thankfully their are others who take a more balanced approach which makes visited here worthwhile.
Just my opinion.
Regards
Sauron
Really? I was going to say just the same. I always get a kick out of the way some anti-intellectual types react when one of their outrageous and unsupported claims is challenged or when a point is made that their can’t counter. Funny when they can’t counter historical facts and have no recourse but to call the other person a commie, or follower of Noam Chomsky, which is the same.:)
Here’s an example of a typical conversation with Sauron:
Person: Well, I don’t think the US was justified in going to Iraq.
Sauron: What? Anti-US rhetoric- he’s a commie! No criticizing of the US allowed, and no, I don’t have any historical claims to back up my opinons.
Person: The US has overthrown democracies in Iran and Guatemala to install dictatorships.
Sauron: I’m not going to bother doing the research for that since you’re obviously a commie, and those facts are wrong. Throw him into that lake boys! If he floats, he’s a commie- kill him. if he sinks, well, that’ll teach ’em.
Sounds like you’re a fan of the Alien & Sedition act of 1798.
Cheers.
The pic was just released yesterday, but no word on when it was actually taken….
OK, here’s some info. Your aicraft IDing skills are impeccable Arthur.
“Seen here on a trials mission from BAE Systems’ Warton facility on 5 February, Tornado GR.1 (ZA354) of the BAE Systems test fleet is one of only two remaining airworthy GR.1s and has been heavily involved in trials for the type. “
It looks a bit like those German MG42s? from WWII.
well of course I know what a crisp is; just found it curious that you mentioned it at thar end.
well of course I know what a crisp is; just found it curious that you mentioned it at thar end.
Originally posted by Flood
Cheese and onion crisp?
Flood.
eh?:confused:
Originally posted by Flood
Cheese and onion crisp?
Flood.
eh?:confused:
I see….so that’s how you got over 6000 posts, eh?;) OK, nevermind, I see you just posted in about 10 different posts. A veritable flood of messages indeed.
I see….so that’s how you got over 6000 posts, eh?;) OK, nevermind, I see you just posted in about 10 different posts. A veritable flood of messages indeed.
OK, I think it might be a CETME Ameli belt-fed MG.
Originally posted by Sauron
So you are telling us that the CIA takes full responsibility for your so called facts. The body counts were the sole result of calculated interventions on the part of the CIA acting on orders of the U.S. administration of the day? No connections to events in the particular country involved, simply done out of context and in isolation? I am sure their are those who believe or even need to believe your facts. I think you have been reading Noam.
Sauron
Actually, no, the CIA doesn’t take full responsibility for the facts, since they don’t want to declassify all the data, e.g. the names of the people they targeted for execution, among other things. I don’t know or care who Noam is; is that the best you can do to disparage my character since you have a lack of factual information? Good try, but you fall short.:p
“Just a wild guess, but are you an American? One of those Americans who live the good life and feel guilty about it? The kind that turns up at a ‘peace march’ with a sign that says. ‘America is a terrorist state’ or maybe ‘Bush is worse that Hitler’?”
I’m just one of those people on this board who corrects ignorant Canucks.
“Yes, I am from Ontario, Canada, a fact which I clearly show, unlike some others who are apparently ashamed to stand up and state where they live.”
You mean Arthur and SOC?
“An yes I do think that the end sometimes justifies the means. “
Well that’s unfortunate; since we’re obviously on different moral pages here, end of discussion. I pity whomever else thinks like that, whether they are proponents of the USSR or US’s policies.
Originally posted by Sauron
So you are telling us that the CIA takes full responsibility for your so called facts. The body counts were the sole result of calculated interventions on the part of the CIA acting on orders of the U.S. administration of the day? No connections to events in the particular country involved, simply done out of context and in isolation? I am sure their are those who believe or even need to believe your facts. I think you have been reading Noam.
Sauron
Actually, no, the CIA doesn’t take full responsibility for the facts, since they don’t want to declassify all the data, e.g. the names of the people they targeted for execution, among other things. I don’t know or care who Noam is; is that the best you can do to disparage my character since you have a lack of factual information? Good try, but you fall short.:p
“Just a wild guess, but are you an American? One of those Americans who live the good life and feel guilty about it? The kind that turns up at a ‘peace march’ with a sign that says. ‘America is a terrorist state’ or maybe ‘Bush is worse that Hitler’?”
I’m just one of those people on this board who corrects ignorant Canucks.
“Yes, I am from Ontario, Canada, a fact which I clearly show, unlike some others who are apparently ashamed to stand up and state where they live.”
You mean Arthur and SOC?
“An yes I do think that the end sometimes justifies the means. “
Well that’s unfortunate; since we’re obviously on different moral pages here, end of discussion. I pity whomever else thinks like that, whether they are proponents of the USSR or US’s policies.
Originally posted by ForkTailedDevil
Despite firearms being something I’m good at IDing im not sure about that rifle. It looks like one of the Spanish built and designed CETME rifles derived from the German G3s but the carrying handle should’nt really be there. It doesn’t appear to be a G36E either which is the standard Spanish rifle so im a bit stumped but I think it is most likely to be some version of the newer CETME versions.
I figured it was some sort of variant of the G-series, but it just looks a bit odd. cetme you say, eh?
Originally posted by BME330
In Spain, our Ejercito del Aire (EdA) has a couple of units of that kind, first is the EZAPAC (Escuadrón de Zapadores Paracaidistas), with recon roles, special operations etc etc now even CSAR roles, the other unit is the EADA (Escuadrón de Apoyo al Despliegue Aereo) the EADA operates Mistral/Atlas and some Aspide missiles, that unit was specially created for help the deployement of spanish planes in other countries (Rwanda, Afghanistan etc etc)
BME330, what weapon is that man firing?
Thanks!