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October 13, 2004 at 9:54 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630060

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Correct, the Eagles sent to India weren’t equipped with the AESA, but they did have the AIM-9X.

And I’m not “liquored up”, I’ve just been having technical difficulties limiting my web access. My computer at home has refused to cooperate and access the internet, so I have to deal with whatever time I have in the office.

Right, but did they have amraams?

Where in the world did Manu get the idea that you were liquored up? Well, your name is Irish, but let’s not sterotype here…..:)

October 13, 2004 at 7:02 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630144

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The upcoming exercise with US F-16s ought to be more interesting. Will the IAF be fielding Su-30MKIs?

October 13, 2004 at 6:04 pm in reply to: MiG-31 #2630170

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Hey, SOC. We have a question for you on the Cope-India thread.

October 13, 2004 at 5:46 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630183

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However, I’m still curious as to whether or not the F-15s involved were equipped with AESA or not! 🙂

October 13, 2004 at 5:11 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630204

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I don’t think so.. First, IAF Mirages have RDM radars installed. Those are monopulse, pretty hard to upgrade to active AAMs. Second, IAF must have had at least MICA simulators. Third, India’s MATRA Super 530D would be a far more logical solution, because of the mentioned 20 mile-range and permanent target illumination restrictions which push all the advantages of MICA over 530D aside.

Interesting…. Any ideas on the F-15s with AESA’s serial numbers?

October 13, 2004 at 5:07 pm in reply to: Replacement of Vikhr: Hermes #2630220

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There was a long discussion on this several months ago with PiBu; do a search and you can find it.

October 13, 2004 at 4:56 pm in reply to: Searchwater 2000 fixed wing application (now with pic) #2630249

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Wasn’t this sold to China as well?

October 13, 2004 at 4:55 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630251

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Well the upgrades in the IAF M2K’s might have inlcuded an upgrade in the radars as well. Those could have made the M2K’s MICA capable and not necessarily mean that the IAF has MICA or not.

That could be true; they were just simulating BVR firings anyhow.

October 13, 2004 at 4:48 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630253

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Thanks for the pictures Flex. Now, do we know if 0023 and 0028 have AESA?

October 13, 2004 at 3:40 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630296

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OK, back to square one then…

Sure, if you count the 4-6 strikers…

However, it would seem that some of the Mirages are capable of firing Micas. So not all of the strikers are sitting ducks. Even if you discount the strikers, there would still be a slight numerical superioirty enjoyed by the IAF, about 1.75:1

October 13, 2004 at 3:35 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630305

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If you count the strikers, yes. But the problem is that the strikers were always the RedFor, while the IAF’s birds would sometimes be the BlueFor while other times the USAF birds the BluFor. There was no IAF or USAF, it was RedFor and BlueFor.

However, for this particular exercise in question, it seems that the US flew with a handicap, especially a numerical one.

October 13, 2004 at 3:31 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630328

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Did you know that the USAF wasn’t always the OpFor? Sometimes the USAF would be escorts. The roles weren’t static, except for the strikers.

Both sides were given the tactical advantage… hence dissimilar, cooperative exercise.

Of course. But did the IAF always have numerical superiority?

October 13, 2004 at 3:30 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630335

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In my opinion, the US is probably now trying to prevent total embarrassment to its F-15 pilots, and do some damage control. However, they got their main point across; to buy more F-22s.

October 13, 2004 at 3:28 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630344

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From what I read recently, the US was not using the full range potential of the Amraams. This seems to contradict what I read back in March(?) that mentioned the US did better in BVR. kinda strange. Maybe just because the reports came from different people, with different levels of understanding of military things.

All BVR missiles were limited to 20 mi. in attacking, and 18 mi. in defending.

October 13, 2004 at 3:26 pm in reply to: US-India Cope Exercises #2630350

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You’re right, the USAF didn’t fire the AMRAAM… neither did the IAF fire its R-77. You see, there’s something called simulation and acquisition rounds and ACMI.

Stop beating around the bush, and answer the question. You know I was not referring to an actual firing of the missile.

That’s why it’s called CopeEx… as in Coperative exercise, not Coperative War

That’s why it’s called DACT- Dissimilar.
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