Wow, thanks John,
The project has made some great progress. Some of the Halifax drawings have prefix 52 (Hampden) numbers such as the control column top and the rudder pedals. Keep up the excellent work.
If there’s a wantslist of things you still need, post it here and perhaps we can help. Several projects have already benefitted from a similar action.
I will be more than happy to help with the search for parts.
Cheers
Cees
If Halifax LW170 is found (I hope) at a depth of about a km in the irish sea then we know what the condition of these wrecks will be. If not forget the salt water sites and concentrate on the fresh water latkes of Russia, Norway. The Dutch IJsselmeer contains a lot of wrecks but sof far few complete wrecks have been found, bar the B24 during 1975 and the P47 during 1993, these were substantial and there was relatively light corrosion but so far after having geen actively involved since 1998 with these wet investigations no complete wrecks have been located and fishermen who know the really interesting sites keep them to themselves as that is where the fish will be. there are still possibilities but you cannot go out to find them, they will have to be found first by chance (or you will have to spend a fortune searching the lake, can you imagine how large it is? I can). The shallowness of the lake is another factor being mostly about five metres. Enough for a fighter but a bomber stands less chance. But altogether, if all goes to plan a substantial Lancaster centre section with complete wings may be lifted at the end of this year or the next but i doubt that the Dutch recovery workers will have any plan for the preservation or display at a museum similar to the one in the Berling museum. You need the space first but perhaps it can be done, if the will is there. I keep positive though.
It’s still my dream to find a complete wreck someday, it can be done but the circumstances must be right and then the fun start….
Cheers
cees
I blame flypast. First they lure me into buying the magazine since 1983, then get me hooked on aircraft recovery and then building a Halifax cockpit.
it’s not fair, who”s going to pay for those psychiatrist bills anyway….
:D:D:D
Hello Cees
The project is progressing well but slowly as I can only work on it in my spare time plus there are other projects that need attention. Currently I am working on the bottom half of the nose section, this is proving very difficult as only about 60% of the drawings exist ,but by studying existing bits of wreckage and the available drawings, miracles are being done. The plan is to complete the front fuselage and then construct the tailplane ( a recognisable bit for the general public to see ), this will then give us the enthusiasim to construct the rear fuselage and tail boom to join them together, then there is the task of constructing the wings. There is no time limit to the project ,I may not live to see the end ( Brian Nicholls who started the project certainly didnt).John
Thanks John for the update,
It’s a great project, keep it up. Is there any form of cooperation with the RAF Museum’s project?
Cheers
Cees
In the early years of flypast there were numours reports on wrecks such as Typhoon, Tomahawk, hurricane etc, as well as that these wrecks were planned for recovery, nothing came of it. And this was in the early eighties, the salt water and shingle does nothing for the survival of these wrecks. Or the wreck should be fully submerged in mud to stand any chance.
Cheers
Cees
There is also the Warpaint series with useful photographs but also with scale drawings. I use them on my Fonderie Miniatures 1/48 Hampden.
Als there is a book about the Hampden by Mark Postletwaithe with some very sharp images.
Good luck with the project, another underrated (HP) type
Cheers
cees
I may be able to help, all the existing drawings for the Hampden are held by the IWM, you may be able to access them through Harry Fraiser-Mitchell via the Handley Page Association. There was an article in the May/June 2000 edition of Flying Scale Models of Peter Andersons Hampden scale model,Peter was from Newark and drew his own plans for this, it might be an idea to find him. If you want a copy of this article I can send you one. Let me know if you need any gen. Please feel free to visit me at East Kirkby.
John
Hi John,
As this thread is about the Hampden in general, may I ask you how the project is progressing and what are the plans, what’s needed etc.
Harry Fraser Mitchell is a real gentleman and has helped me a great deal regarding Halifax drawings.
Cheers
Cees
I thought Les Cralley’s Corsair was the only known Brewster build example in existence.
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Cees
Bl**dy hell, not another one:mad:
Glad the the pilot is ok.
Cheers
Cees
IIRC TB863 is a highback Mk XVI.
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Cees
Cees whats the history on the seat cusion with it being 1944? Absolutely stunning work as well !!!
Peter,
A few years ago a contact of mine acquired a number of original RAF seat cushions with the year of manufacture stamped 1944 etc. These cushions were similar to the one in the seat well of IWM’s Halifax cockpit PN323. Normally these bomber seats were intended for the seat type parachutes but these were generally changed for the observer type chest packs, as they were less cumbersome to get into the aircraft IIRC.
Cheers
Cees
G-ACLB
PHILLIPS AND POWIS AIRCRAFT LTD
Type: MILES M2 HAWK
Serial No.: 16
ICAO 24 bit aircraft address: (hex):
Popular Name: HAWK
Generic Name: M2
Aircraft Class: FIXED-WING LANDPLANE
Engines: 1
Hi David,
It is, so you can see it went to a good home but you knew that already.
This forum over the years has been a very good source of parts and information. It works both ways of course. So long may it continue.
Cheers
Cees
Thanks, but I see myself more as a conductor (and banker). I am still learning the basics but I have a lot of contacts as well that are very important.
The bottom line is: enjoying it seing it grow.
And don’t anyone dare to put an original pilot’s seat on e-bay….:dev2:
Cheers
Cees
Some more progress. The sutton harness and seat cushion (originals with the seat cushion stamped 1944) as well as the intercom connector have been fitted to the seat. And I couldn’t wait anymore and fitted the seat on the pilot’s chassis. This is really starting to come togehter.
Am I pleased? …………….what do you think:)
Cheers
Cees