Hi all,
Happy new year etc. etc.
Great to read news on the Stirling project. A few weeks ago a substantial undercarriage leg of one was recovered by the Dutch air force from the Waddenzee near Kornwerderzand. No further news or photo’s sofar but will keep you updated.
Keep up the good work chaps
Cheers
Cees
The egyptian Stirlings are problably the only “quick” way to find substantial Stirling airframes. Or one should surface from Scandinavia.
If the Russian Stirling is still extant, it was known by now I think. I would think that a substantial Stirling airframe has a limited value only to the UK, or would serve as swap material.
Any views on that?
Cheers
Cees
Let’s not forget the Hurricanes that were scrapped circa 1970, by N.A.P.S., having failed to find them homes amongst the B.A.P.C. membership.
These were from a Blackpool scrapyard, and their presence there had been well documented for years.
Interesting to see the mention of the King Street, Dukinfield branch of Coley’s. It’s just up the road from me. I talked to a bloke who worked there and he told me that when it was cleared, much stuff was thrown down mine shafts. Merlins, jet engines and tons of boxed new spares…
It’s built over again now. I wonder if residents have a clue what might be beneath their living room floors?
Yes, a differrent view then as what’s worth saving or not. If you read the early FlyPasts aircraft were being restored only if the airframe was reasonably complete.
Substantial remains were being disposed of, now these remains are the basis of many restoration projects. As Mark says, we are scraping the barrel. But a lot has been destroyed only relatively recently
Cheers
Cees
Happy to correct.
We took the decision with the Mosquito, that if we were to return it to any of the states it was in when airworthy, there would be a significant loss of original material. By original, we defined that as being the parts of the aircraft that had been associated with it since it entered preservation.
We have therefore decided that it will be returned to the state it was in at the 1946 SBAC show, when it was displayed, in static condition, at Radlett. It is as valid a point in history as any other.
Fuller reply later!
Bruce
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the reply (curious about the rest of it). That’s great news, in that way the various guises of the airframe after it’s famous first flights are not erased. Other restorers take note……..
Will it be camoulaged as well? Take your time (but not too long);)
Cheers
Cees
The “Super”Stirling with enlarged wingspan and cranked up tail
Cheers
Cees
This is the way to do it.
http://home.comcast.net/~aero51/html/exhibits/martinet_restoration.htm
What a great project
Cees
wouldnt the falconer v12’s usad in the thunder mustang do the job? in supercharged form they’re producing a fair amount of power and shouldnt be too far behind what a kestral or peregrine make’s
What’s the problem with the “make it fly” brigade?
Why should any restoration have to fly. Let’s start with a static one first shall we? If there are no drawings to work from, then the result would be a monstrosity, something that it isn’t. A good static replica/reconstruction is what we need first………………
Mark’s bit about a replica being underway (and quietly, very sensible) is very exiting but I think that being very quietly, pics are out of the question? nudge nudge wink wink:o
Here’s to hoping.
Cees
Hi Elliott,
Looking great, fantastic to see these bits coming together again. There’s some pitting on the gun arm casting, will you be filling this with compound filler or something or will you keep it as it is.
With centre section, you mean the wing centresection. Is this the heart of the airframe that bolts all other section onto?
Keep us updated on this great project. It would harm if you regularly post a wants list, it helped David’s Sea Hornet project quite a bit.
Cheers
Cees
Thanks Peter,
You know something we don’t?:rolleyes:
Cees
🙂
There’s an article in one of the Warbirds World Wide issues about the redrawing of the Merlin information before putting it in production by Packard.
Isn’t it that the differences between the British and American engines are in the accessories? Pumps, carburettors etc?
Cheers
Cees
I have been in contact with Ewan Cameron and he is a very nice and knowledgable guy. Very pleasant to be in contact with.
If you look at the turret cupolas (two Halifax tail turrets Type E among others) it makes your mouth water.
Still, what’s the use stocking up on parts you will never use.
Cheers
Cees
And what’s the fate of the Lancaster cockpit Elliott sold for Bernie Salter?
Was it indeed blown up for a German film?
Cheers
Cees
Hi Pau,
I looked at it and I think you have made a great start. I particularly like
the stories of both aircrew and groundcrew as well as the situation today
regarding the Halifax. Keep it up.
Cheers
Cees
To keep on topic
Ex RNethAF Spitfire XIV MT853 looked very similar as a target at the Harskamp shooting range in the Netherlands during the early fifties. I have seen a pic of it with the tail shot off and the prop buried in the ground.
When I was in the Army (in the days when you had to serve for 14 months) I frequently visited there and tried to find out if anything was left, but apart from two F-84’s used for camouflage training (1985/1986) I couldn’t find anything. However there are still rumours about an old aircraft with a bubble canopy in a barn, but where have we heard that before.
What happened to the wreckage of PK519 after it’s “usefulness” as a target was over?
Cheers
Cees
Yes, PLEASE keep us informed, Mark!! BTW i’m beginning to wonder if you’re Peter Arnold!!
Who? No, Kris Kringle or Santa Claus , the Easter bunny perhaps but not Peter Arnold…..:eek:
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Cheers
Cees