Steve Ballance isn’t it?
Welcome to the forum.
Interesting project, how realistic is it, just an honest question.
What are the long term plans, where will it be based, who is
going to finance it, more importantly who will build it.
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Cees
Me too, magnificent aircraft the Victor.
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Cees
Is the cockpit that devoid of instrumentation or have these been taken out for transport.
I have a gunsight for the turret available, I will gladly donate it to the project
if needed.
PM me
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Cees
Thanks Peter,
Do they have something to attach it to then? TE330 is sold isn’t it?
Cees
So that makes three Spitfires Mk IX from Russia then. I believe that a Mk V tailsection was also retrieved from Russia and used by the Subrizky family in a restoration. As a lot of Spits have been exported east, are there more that came “back”?
Russia must still be a source for raw material.
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Cees
I have found several fired corroded .303 shell cases on the beach at Wlaton-on-the Naze in the 80’s.
Are these as likely to have come from aircraft as they are from ground forces practicing?
David,
The Hurricane wreck on show at the BOB Museum Hendon was recovered from Walton on the Naze, but I doubt that it came from that wreck as it was recovered in the early seventies. Perhaps they were careless during recovery.
The book One Hurricane One Raid is a must read about this subject (recovery and conservation)
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Cees
Well there is a case of a fuselage that at some point lost it’s tailsection in transit.
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Cees
I remember when visiting the FAA Museum ten years ago that there were some pics about the recovery next to the nose of the Barracuda. Would make a great article in any of the magzines
Cees
Suppose:
A Spitfire airframe is found in India or Thailand with full provenance and during transport the tailsection is stolen.
After arriving in the UK the fuselage is sold and used in a documented rebuild and after completion takes to the sky etc etc. Sometime later the tailsection that had been stolen earlier turns up frpm nowhere. Can this be the subject of a dispute between the owners of the tail and the fuselage about the identity?
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Cees
Yes, and they have every right to do so. So if the Panton brothers want to have NX611 restored to flyable condition, it’s their right. Nobody would object against this of course, I wouldn’t, but with some reservations;)
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Cees
After the thin but robust provenance discussion has died down, when will the next discussion start regarding the 100% original aircraft?:cool:
During the eighties a restoration was carried out using different wings, tailsection etc. Normal procedure during service, but totally unacceptable nowadays;)
These serial soups are waiting to be judged.:diablo:
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Cees
So what options are there?
A written document stating that the owner “A” who has bits of aircraft “X” currently owned by owner “B”would never claim to have the right of the identity?
Could be potential legal quicksand
Wonder how this develops over time.
I was fooled by the pics of “TD248”. In Holland the skins of MK732 were discarded but acquired by a collector who used the fuselage skins on his reproduction Spitfire cockpit but I was shown the complete skin package of the tailsection. What happens if this is sold?
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Cees
Yak 11 Fan
It’s the general picture in the UK I was aiming at.
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Cees
Hi Yorkie,
You can have a look at Barnstormers.com if there are any advertised. You can also post on the Warbirds Information Exchange Forum where a lot of American participants can provide you with the information you need.
Interesting idea you have there, what would be your plans if you had one?
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Cees