What is interesting is operational functionality using quality proven products available today. France, Sweden, UK have all flown AESA demonstrators but just because it’s “AESA” doesn’t make it any better than the current mature operational system. Russia has a small fleet too so I suppose they to wish to wait for their AESA products to mature.

Debatable. UK & France are both rushing forward for AESA, at least EADS+ Selex is in the former case, whereas in the latter Dassault needs AESA to make the Rafale more enticing for export.

The JAS 39’s PS05 Mk3 is already the strongest operational multifunction radar in Europe today at 160km bvr capability + a decent SAR, and while a AESA is possible to install the aim is to enhance the current one in ground modes with high resolution SAR and autonomy, and further advance the AESA technology during this time.

A source for the PS05 range would be great. And secondly, in air to air- the EF is better. As a strong multifunction radar, the RDY Mk2 is also fairly capable, dont you think?

Err… ever heard of a little company called Ericsson ? They are currently focused on reducing the size of the modules but still increase effect. So far they have demonstrated an array with 15,000 TR modules. Nothing says that one will go into a fighter jet radar but fact is they are developing the components for the multi-channel AESA to the Swedish NORA III Programme.

You don’t do breakthroughs with baby-steps…

Ericsson is dependent on Raytheon modules..

I a, not saying who is right and who is wrong. Thats your own value jusgement. I just pointed out a simple fact. Pakistan is sandwiched between two neighbours who spend much more (as a gross total) on defence thne Pakistan does. With regards to spending more on social development, I agree, in an ideal world Pakistan would spend all its money on social/education/helath prgrammes. However, as your aware, we dont live in an ideal world.

No, you made a comment which was partly hyperbole- about the superiority of the PN’s sub arm- based on a false premise.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Sindhugosh.html
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Shishumar.html

As can be seen the upgraded Indian submarines are fairly modern & in terms of numbers and capability provide more effect than the PNs current arm.
As regards defence spending, you made the statement that Pak spends less than its neighbours- true, but only partly true given that as a percentage of GDP, Pak spends more than it should. If India were to replicate the Pak defence spending, it could easily swamp Pak in terms of acquisitions, but its procurement & defence expenditure is more balanced.

No man I am sure that i aint mistaken. On the show ‘Greates Ever’ it was shown on Discovery and they were counting down bombers. when the bear was up on #8 tom clancy said these words…..

‘The bear is gradually the world noisiest plane, so loud infact that its signatures can be picked up by submarines’ …..Tom Clancy

Qantaz u can keep barking, the mods will just ban a pesky annoying little kid like you. If ya wanna be stupid go ahead. Hope u learned something from Harry’s post.

Wow. Quoting Tom Clancy on Russian military equipment is quite akin to quoting Hezbollah on Israeli valour. IOW, Tom Clancy’s cold war idealogical blinkers & rah rah attitude to US vs Russian make him extremely suspect, and hes not regarded as a serious commentator by current serving US military personnel. That apart, Clancy is an ex-insurance salesman, not an engineer or soldier.

Irrespective of the noise – and I would like to see how many submerged Pakistani subs field deployable *surface acoustic detection equipment*, which they can deploy even if submerged – to detect “noisy” Bears, the Bears have two things in their favour- internal volume & payload, and endurance. Which make them suitable for long endurance missions.

Also, the IN Tu-142’s have gone through limited upgrades per sources- these include the latest locally produced ESM gear & Israeli Elta 2022 radars. Of course, the IN is discreet about the sonar gear. But as a point of interest, please look at the ALH project & the IN’s sonar project for the same. So India does have the ability to field local sonar gear for the Tu-142’s and with less fuss..

A couple of my best mates are of asian origin, (so no I am not anti Asian muslin etc)
but it’s the old saying, not every muslim is a terrorist but every terrorist is a muslim, (or some bent islamic extremist faith), and this is a shame because people are going to look at Asians in the UK with that ere of suspision, I do agree with the above comment that the muslim communities could do a little more to expell the extremist Jihadis amongst them, and yes alot of muslims were dancing around when 9/11 happened, we play cricket against a pakistani side after 9/11 and the way they were acting was shocking, and I heard a comment about Bin-Laden which was “one man’s enemy is another man’s hero”, I won’t tell you what I said 🙂

Regarding searches when the wife & I were on our way back from Australia in 2002 we went through security at Sydney and they wanted to inspect our shoes, and then they wanted to ruffle through our suitcase, then I thought, well there’s alot of dirty underwear in there, if they want to sift through it they can carry on

Well said sir. Ultimately its upto the Muslims to find & finger the bad apples among them. But despite the occasional help in a bomb plot (like this one), the vast majority of them continue to talk of crimes & war against Islam, hence the “reaction” (in my personal experience)- and these the moderate ones. All in all, a worrisome thing & they are just exacerbating the issue.

Irbis is PESA
But if it achieves its claimed performance, then its sure equal to a first gen AESA

400km for a 3Sq Mtr RCS :rolleyes: 😎

Ed,

I was complimenting you, that was damn funny what you wrote!