Well my intention was to pose a question solely relating to the weathering that’s been applied. The validity of the scheme under the muck is another discussion!
My brief for the artists was to produce what I might have found parked up in the corner of a German Airfield somewhere at wars end. To that end I think they’ve done a good job.
I absolutely mirror the admiration for a “factory fresh” looking Spit restoration. However there might also be interest in an aircraft that’s looking like it’s battle weary from a few months / years without much regard for its cosmetic appearance. We admire the history defining achievements of these aircraft and the people that flew them yet 99% of those presented to us today look like they’ve done little more than be pushed off the production line. I guess do you want to see a picture of the boxer before or after the fight?
Its marmite. And by that I mean an opinion divider, not as in what’s been applied to get the look.
Peter Pan and Dunkirk both had their own Spit cockpits but I’m not sure about a hurri.
There was that polish Sqd thing maybe a year ago that took the HAC Hurri to Eastern Europe? From what I hear the producers have yet to deliver a film but I could be wrong. I know a replica Hurricane got built for it but no idea how good it was or what became of it.
Guys, thank you, some great leads and I really appreciate it. I’ll pick up the phone in the morning.
I’ll always try and steer towards the real thing when possible, and inevitably they will get used. The replica request was purely because some airfield scenes might well be shot “off airfield” if you know what I mean. The ability to truck some in would likely be the only way to get that to work.
I recall a newspaper article at the time quoting Jeff Hawke (was he the aerial coordinator for the movie?) as saying that they had to buy the Moth because no one would lend or rent them one. I would say that the usual journalistic caveats apply.
Steve
Down the road I bet they wish they had. Made quite an impact on its value!
https://jerrygarrett.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/famed-out-of-africa-biplane-headed-to-auction/
Why did they built a Lysander and not use the shuttleworth example? Is it unavailable? Seems like a huge effort to go to when an aircraft exists.
Most of that final scene of Allied was shot indoors in a studio, under a rain machine. Many operators of rare and precious aircraft won’t have an appetite for what the film industry wants to do. Wings off, road transport to a studio, pop it on a gimbal mount for movement etc etc.
The aircraft was also shown landing in a field with BP at the controls. Maybe the field they want to land in isn’t suitable for real aircraft ops. Maybe the owner / studio / insurers really don’t want to leave BP alone in there with the prop turning.
In addition a big feature film could be 120 crew running at well over £300k per shoot day, with each day of a 4 month schedule mapped out well in advance. What if the weather on the day isn’t suitable? Way too scary for them when you start saying “well if the cloud base is this, or the wind is that, or if the 70 year old machine doesn’t start…”
They also love good camera access. The movie replicas have “floating” sections, so the fuselage might break apart in front of the pilot so we can get a big camera hero face on. It might break behind so we can shoot his POV. A movie camera with lens can be about 4ft long.
Finally they have control. If they need to do reshoots they have little control over a real aircraft, someone might crash it or sell it or the initial experience have been so grim that the owner no longer has a desire to do another lap. With their own replica they can pop it in a shipping container and hold it until what’s known as picture lock. That being they have the final edit complete and ready for distribution.
You can see it doesn’t take long before even a costly replica becomes the way to go.
Attached image is copyright Steven Hall
Debach Airfield Museum
Thank you guys, the depth of knowledge never fails to impress! Looks like Debach will have a little extra £ dropping in their pot.
Really appreciate all the input.
Thank you
Taifun
….It might be a decent gesture for Taifun to step in and acknowledge the helpful replies offered up thus far…… ??
So sorry Detective, you’re quite right, I’ve been on my travels! Thank you to all who’ve offered their kind advice. Much appreciated.
As an update it looks like geographic convenience has trumped the desire for “something modern” and they might be heading to the T5 at Cranfield. I’ve certainly put the two in touch. Hopefully they’ll pop some meaningful funds in the kitty to keep her running..
Thanks again everyone..
Taifun.
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How do you think the canopy has been modified?
Loads more I don’t have pictures of. She’s quite a machine, totally original she still even has the glider towing gear. Rumour has it that she’s the lowest time C47 / DC3 in the world. Mike opens her up for visitors at most of the airshows she attends and is well worth a look (the aircraft, not Mike).
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“Any Human Heart” – Dunsfold 2012(ish) blacked out for a night parachute exit shot.
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“Monuments Men” – Duxford 2013
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“Land Girls” 2010?(ish)
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From “Red Tails” – Prague 2008
Hi Taifun,
I don’t have anything against a Pingouin being dressed up as a 108, but I was wondering if you might consider an Axis scheme other than Luftwaffe? There are various rather tasty Hungarian schemes to choose from, or perhaps even RAF colours as an Aldon??
Just a thought, it’s not as if I’m paying the bills…
There are actually a bunch of really cool schemes, including some nice civilian ones. I believe the German embassy had one here when war broke out which we impounded, in rather a gentlemanly way, by letting its tyres down..
The Aldon is indeed another fun option, must have been character building knocking around the Home Counties in one of those early ‘40’s. The inevitable draw of the Luftwaffe schemes however are the airshows, without swastika and smoke system I don’t think you’d get half the bookings.
We’ll see. There’ll be a bit of a road yet to certification with some (nicely done but unacceptable) American mods to unravel..
Cheers for the input!
Please, Lord, don’t let them paint it up with faux Luftwaffe markings and pretend that it’s a bf 109!
Of course not! I’m going to paint it up with faux Luftwaffe markings and pretend that it’s a Bf108!! If only I had the money to pretend it was a 109…
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