Looks like the B-17 is Texas Raiders, from the CAFs Galveston, Texas, wing, judging from the paint job. Video shows the P-63 plowing right into its rear fuselage and cutting off the tail.
No offense taken, Adrian! And … I’ll stop when TIGHAR stops. Just sayin’ …
Sadly justtttttttt a tad outside my price range …
Another interesting development, upheavals on TIGHAR’s board of directors:
.None of these changes were announced in any way. Typically, non-profits give departing board members and public acknowledgement of their service. One has to wonder what prompted Quigg’s departure, he has been a member for more than 20 years and his departure leaves TIGHAR without ready access to an archaeologist. Likewise Glickman, whose last know project for TIGHAR was photo and artifact analysis on the piece of aircraft aluminum TIGHAR found on a Pacific island, and which Gillespie has been insisting for more than three decades came from Earhart’s Lockheed Electra.
Of course, Gillespie and his wife Pat Thrasher remain as board members, in their roles and TIGHAR’s executive director/secretary and president/treasurer. Also staying are the two attorneys … you have two wonder why a small, single-issue non-profit needs TWO lawyers on its board … and Mark Smith, TIGHAR’s longtime videographer.
Actually it was me that said, “To date the search for Amelia and Fred hasn’t caught the fancy of any of the dot.com billionaires who dabble in oceanography and deep water searching.” I had forgotten where the money for the three searches I cited had come from, thanks for correcting that.
Wrightth said: The only way to stop them is by doing some research and locating the plane and proving them all wrong.
That’s it in a nutshell, mate. The problem with that bland (although entirely correct) assertion is that it costs enormous sums of money to search in the very deep ocean floor off of Howland Island. To date the search for Amelia and Fred hasn’t caught the fancy of any of the dot com billionaires who dabble in oceanography and deep water searching.
There have been three searches that I’m aware of: Nauticos, Williams and Associates and the Waitt Institute. Each covered a different part of the ocean floor north, west or south of Howland. Robert Ballard is rumored to be planning a trip to poke around there in 2023, after he failed to find anything at all at Nikumaroro Island a few years ago.
Wrightth – I’m sure you could try floating your math error theory over at the TIGHAR forums, where it would receive a dispassionate and fact-based review by the many, many knowlegable members *cough*
Oh, wait, no you can’t – TIGHAR’s forums are closed, members only. You could try posting on their Facebook page to see what response it gets. Good luck with that.
Another one of TIGHAR’s “projects that will not die” … but in this case Gillespie is spending money on it. Or his he???
In TIGHAR’s most recent tax form, it lists expenses of $83,650 but no information on what those expenses were for, other that his boilerplate description, “THE MAID OF HARLECH: ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVALUATION AND ONGOING ADVOCACY FOR THE PROTECTION AND EVENTUAL RECOVERY OF A RARE 1942 LOCKHEED P38 LIGHTNING AIRCRAFT …EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH INCLUDES THE PUBLICATION OF ARTICLES IN THE ORGANIZATIONS JOURNAL TIGHAR TRACKS AND ON THE ORGANIZATIONS WEBSITE.”
Which doesn’t answer the question. I suspect this is just ANOTHER of the many, many mistakes TIGHAR makes in the tax forms it submits to the Internal Revenue Service.
$2.4 million in “executive compensation” since 2001. Just sayin’ …
Having to fly those Vultees was punishment enough, I should think.
plough said, “What puzzles me is why does anyone else want to go there? “
Because Gillespie is an extraordinarily good salesman – and that’s all he is.
It seems that some of the more annoying issues have been fixed – I can now click through posts and not have them keep showing up as Unread; and log-in is a tiny bit easier. *pinkie claps*
I find Gillespie’s attitude particularly vexing since he stated on Jan. 20, 2022, that “TIGHAR has no plans to return to Niku.” https://tighar.org/smf/index.php/topic,2203.msg44495.html#msg44495
So … if TIGHAR/Gillespie has written Niku off, why does he come out so strongly against anyone else wanting to go there???
Ah, the Blades. Better eyes than me, mate.
I’m still trying to figure out what, if anything, a warbird flyover has to do with a golf tournament funded by a regime of very questionable ethics. I hope the Saudis at least covered the fuel bill for that performance.
It’s past time for TIGHAR to get serious about its – poop!
In 2010 Gillespie posted on the TIGHAR forums, “In 2007 we collected what looked like small chunks of brown dirt – but there’s no real dirt at the Seven Site – just coral rubble. We wondered if it might be dried fecal material (not true coprolite because it’s not fossilized). A lab in Canada extracted DNA but it turned out to be my DNA – contamination from touching it without gloves before we realized what it might be. We still didn;t know whether it was really fecal matter so we referred to it as the “Putative Poop” until just recently when the Molecular Anthropology Laboratories at the University of Oklahoma found a type of bacteria present that is generally only found in feces. So the poop is no longer putative. It’s poop. Whether DNA can be extracted remains to be seen.”
No explanation for the three-year time lag.
In 2011 TIGHAR board member Andrew McKenna posted, “We collected “fecal” material during both the 2007 and 2010 expeditions. The 2007 sample, which was not collected with sterile protocols, had what appeared to be Ric’s DNA in it. I think it is the 2010 sample that has recently been tested that has the two different human DNA traces in it. Ric could set me straight on this.
So, the 2007 sample was either Ric’s poop, or contaminated by Ric’s handling it excessively (lots of us handled it not knowing it was going to be tested). Whether or not the 2010 sample has been matched with Ric’s DNA remains to be seen, but the fact that it has what appears to be the human DNA from two persons is very interesting. Either we have Ric’s DNA and someone else, or even two unknown persons. Will be interesting if any of the sequences matched the Earhart family sample we have.”
Again, some talk about various DNA testing protocols but no explanation for why NOTHING has basically been done in the last decade or so.
And now this: https://news.yahoo.com/ancient-dna-reveals-secrets-pompeii-153211890.html If they can extract and sequence DNA from human bones that were covered with volcanic ash hundreds of years ago, seems like this latest technology can tackle “putative poop” that may only be 80-odd years old.
So why isn’t TIGHAR taking the steps to find out if this probably-poop is from Amelia Earhart, Fred Noonan, or one of the SS Norwich City castaways (where my money is)? Do they not want to know the answer, or are they just hoping (again) someone will do it for free?