Thats more like it! I like what you’ve done for the difference between C1 and C2. I agree on Harpoon too. And with so few Astutes being bought, it’ll be nice to have a little flexibility on what is launching the TLAM’s. Still waiting on info on your other systems (TAS, radar etc.)

Thinking about it now though, will we really need 16 A35’s? That equates to 64 CAMM missiles. If it were me i’d say a mix of 12 A35’s and 20 A70’s would be a better mix. Especially if you are thinking of having more than just TLAM’s in the A70’s as you mentioned.

Can you give us a general overview and rough size etc? Are you using the same hull for C1 and C2?

Finally, you not planning on keeping any C2’s in the CVBG? Seems a little escort light right now.

I think your right actually, but I might assign a C2 as a forward patrol vessel.

The C1 and C2 would use the same hull. I want as much cominality as possible. I need to double check at home but I think they come in at 145m long.

I also wanted to re affirm that I would like and think the RN needs to demand a total of 10 C1’s and 12 C2’s I dont think they can skimp on this.

The C3 design I have is something I would be looking at around 16-20 hulls – very much forfilling the low end Perry style role.

Stan, couple of questions:

Will 1 CIWS be enough, we must use 2 usually for a reason?

Is there a hangar, can’t see from the picture, if so, how many helo’s an it support?

I take it the A43’s would be used for CAMM yes? Would it really matter if they added the A50 or A70 instead of A43, they’re the same diameter and there can’t be much cost difference, and it would make a more versatile vessel.

What caliber is the main gun?

What does the C1 have, differeing from C2, apart from more VLS? TAS etc?

I’m happy this thread is back.

Well its a two layered approach for me – CIWS are expensive. It might be better to adopt the German way of have 2 RAM launchers. Anyways I digress.

I would be looking at the CAMM to intercept in the first instance, we should know the direction of the incoming by this stage at which point the ship would turn in order to give the CIWS the approriate arc to fire in.

I havent looked at Price yet, but with the UK looking at just arming in future with CAMM as apposed to anything but the type 45 using aster, there is little point in paying anything extra to have any more than necessary Aster 50 or 70’s on board.

The Gun is a BAE 155mm. There is a hanger for helo ops although looking at the drawing I may need to extend by 1 to 2 meters.

Buccaneers, yes. Sea Vixen, yes. But Phantoms no (only on Ark Royal R09).

http://www.phantomf4k.org
http://www.seavixen.org

sorry my mistake.

Ok so i have a question to ask you chaps and I want you to really think about it.

INS Viraat has just come out of an extensive refit :

NEW DELHI – India’s only aircraft carrier, INS Viraat, which has been in dry dock for a year, will be back in service in a month after a refit allowing the carrier to function until 2015, said a senior Indian Navy official.

2015 !!

She’s a great vessel and we all are very proud of how long she has lasted. One of the big worries though is the lack of planes to fly off her decks.

Today we had another hit on this number:

NEW DELHI, India – An Indian navy fighter jet crashed into the Arabian Sea off the western state of Goa on Aug. 21, with the pilot presumed dead, a military official said.

The jet, a British-made Sea Harrier, plummeted into the sea nine miles (15 kilometers) off Goa’s coast, Indian navy spokesman P.V.S Satish said.

the total number of Sea Harriers with the Indian Navy has fallen to 13

Well thats 12 now.
I know they are interested in buying more from the UK but that hasnt been resolved just yet.

My question is this, should the Viraat be prepped to come back into dock in the next couple of months to have arrestor cables and the optical landing system incorporated so that the Virant can go to sea with the Mig 29’s – in a limited number so we woudl have 6 SHARS and maybe 6 Migs on board? That way we have the pilots that were trained in the US maintaining their skills and India maintaining a credible Carrier.

I wonder could this be done, could Hermes revert to an angled deck?

Hermes has had 12 Sea Vixens, 7 Buccaneers (heavier and bigger than the Mig 29) on deck before and managed this so I wonder…. there is enough parking space next to the ramp.

She is still looking at 6 years at sea

Hey, I would like to know your opinion about the TKMS MEKO MESHD concept for the German Navy:

http://www.europeansecurityanddefence.info/Ausgaben/2008/3_2008/05_Bohlayer_Ball%e9/Bohlayer_Ball%e9_Kaeding_ESD_0308.pdf

Regards
gunner5″

They should ditch the design and follow the Juan Carlos approach.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/juan-carlos/