If US aid to Israel were scaled back, or if a different White House presided over sanctions or restrictions, I could see Israel turning elsewhere for weapons, and in those circumstances Rafale would be in with a shout.
But if the standard load out in the role is going to be with two tanks, then the centreline would either be empty or carrying an unnecessary third tank. Might as well put the LDP in the optimum position in those circs.
OK, Rafale hasn’t made a single export sale, and its immediate prospects don’t look hopeful, but let’s not over-state the paucity of its prospects.
It doesn’t help that many of its strongest prospects would prefer Mirage 2000s (like many in the Armée de l’Air), but with that line dead, you surely can’t discount some chance of eventual success in Brazil and India? Then there are countries like Venezuela and Peru in the longer term.
I do think Team JSF probably realise how flaky the aircraft’s potential international customers are, and will do enough to keep them on board.
But if they don’t, I’d see Belgium as a real possibility for Rafale. And maybe even Israel, since Dassault might be more flexible than LM about integrating local kit and weapons. Moreover, with not much of an air threat, Rafale might be the perfect aircraft for the IDF/AF to go whacking civilians in its neighbouring countries.
Nor would I rule out Greece or Switzerland (though I think Rafale has a smaller chance than Typhoon or Typhoon/Gripen).
ARSA?
Ditching the Station 9 option from the ‘full on’ LDP capability at FCP (Block 10) is pretty recent. Much of the promo literature still shows an LDP in place of the forward port MRAAM, as did the model that sat in front of Rauen and the NETMA bloke when they signed the austere A-G contract on Thursday.
13 hardpoints. One dedicated to an LDP.
Still allows 4+2, two tanks, and four EPWII.
Or 4+2 and six EPWII if you’re not going far!
And that’s only on the one jet in the pair or four ship that’s carrying the pod…..
There are a few good folk out there in the IPT and flying the jet who are loathe to lose the centreline tank in the air-to-ground configuration, but not many of them. Few view anything less than two tanks as being likely in most op A-G fits.
So……
“There were a number of optional mounting points for the LDP, though the outboard underwing position was not seriously considered because the step change due to weapon release and the resultant flexing of the wing would cause the pod to lose lock, break track and that the laser would then switch off.”
“Many opposed the proposed mounting on the forward MRAAM station since it would entail the loss of a weapon, and would disrupt the normal MRAAM weapon release sequence (with any fix being unique for that configuration), while the masking effects of the fuselage and other stores would severely compromise the engagement profiles.”
“Though using the centreline pylon meant giving up the centreline tank this was primarily envisaged for ferry flights. The centreline fit is best aerodynamically and allows the most rigid mounting while the all round view for the pod from the centreline was about as good as it gets.”
Looks like a standard five point harness quick release box, to me.
The targeting pod will NOT “go on one of the slots usually used by an AMRAAM or METEOR.”
Plans for an option to mount Litening on a stub pylon on station 9 (forward port MRAAM) for FCP on Block 10 (Tranche 2) have been cancelled. It was always going to be on the centreline for Austere A-G – which is for ALL UK Tranche 1 jets.
The Litening 3 pod has been chosen by the RAF and by all three remaining partner nations, and though other pods could theoretically be integrated onto the Eurofighter (“allowing some choice to potential customers”) this would of course be at a cost.
A 92 Squadron F-4M XV422 flown by Roy Lawrence with nav Alistair Inverarity shot down Jaguar XX963 of 14 Squadron, flown by Steve Griggs. Griggs ejected twice within a five-month period; the first after being shot down by the F-4 Phantom; the second after a catastrophic engine fire over Northeast Scotland. Last I heard he was OC 41 with an AFC for NVG work.
Great stuff, but how about some Venoms?
The PC-21 might well be an excellent replacement for Tucano, and might well allow some of the present Valley syllabus to be ‘downloaded’ to BFTS. I think M311 would fit that bill very well, too. But it’s not really a suitable platform for AFTS.
Whereas Hawk 128 is optimised as an advanced trainer for the next generation of fast jets and will allow some OCU tasks to be downloaded to Valley, with immense cost savings.
Unit price is an irrelevance (and you need to be careful about what is and isn’t included – unit flyaway is far lower than the cheapest F-16), Hawk scores on its phenomenally low hourly flying costs and very low costs of ownership, and far from sticking with the ancient and costly T-38, the USAF would be well advised to follow the RAF’s lead and go for a Hawk/T-45 version.
Of course he can’t. They’re ********.
I’ve seen much better suggestions……
The Prescott – because it’s a completely compromised, overweight, very expensive, overpriced penetrator that*makes a lot of noise as it goes up and down, has only a tiny weapon (-load),*has already cost us far more than it’s worth, while no-one is quite sure what it’s for, or whether it can do anything useful, but anyone with any sense would expect it to be ****-canned.
Moreover, nobody wants it in their backyard (hence the reason it is going to Lossie).*It does the work of 2 Jags.*It’s very noisy to little efect.
Battle (after the Fairley one).
They were chronically under-powered bomb trucks too, with an undersized internal weapons bay and with just one engine.
F-35 “Martmite” – you either love it, or you hate it
F-35 Sodomite. Only a pervert would love it……
JOATMON, simply meaning:
Jack of all trades, master of none, which it surely will be by the time it arrives.
‘MENSTRUAL’ as I suspect this will bleed the RAF for years.
The YF-35 (Why F-35). Because that’s what everyone is already saying!
My favorite is ‘Blenheim II’ -*another aircraft with great promise and unequalled hype on launch, but over-reliant on a single technological advantage, and handicapped by inadequate performance, and by a too-small internal weapons bay.
But “Don’t get too excited, I doubt if the US will allow foreign ‘partners’ to be allowed access* to the F-35’s name.*However, strictly for these 4 walls, MI5 sources suggest that it’ll be called the F-35 SECRET NOFORN.”
Lark*
The name has to be suitable for fighter pilots so how about the ‘Lark’?*
Just like its feathered relative, it makes a noise totally out of proportion to its size; when it is in the overhead, you’ll know it is there but you cannot see it. It gets airborne when it likes and spends the whole time aloft yelling at the top of its voice: ‘me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me’.
There also seems to be a groundswell for Dave, Kevin, or Gary…….
The ‘Prescott’
“seeing as it’s overweight, ugly, has already cost us far more than it’s worth, is completely compromised and people keep expecting it to get canned.”