Loss Card here
http://www.lancasterbombers.net/Loss_Cards/1943/Feb_43/Feb_43_Pt2/files/book.swf
See Pages 18-19/60
I think this one
Bozier, Reginald Thomas : Sergeant (1322480): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Mid-Upper Gunner, Killed
Others
Hiley, Alan Ernest : Flight Sergeant RAAF (Aus/405586): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Pilot, Killed
Collins, Richard Arthur : Sergeant (1312950): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Navigator, Killed
Paterson, Frederick Harley : Sergeant RAAF (Aus/411372): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Wireless Operator, Killed
Quinlan, Sydney George : Sergeant RAAF (Aus/411259): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Rear Gunner, Killed
Spivey, Fred Travis : Sergeant (1378279): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Flight Engineer, Killed
Teviotdale, Thomas : Sergeant (1367316): Lancaster I W4313 of 101 Squadron, 11-Feb-1943 / 12-Feb-1943. Bomb Aimer, Killed
Some of the ATA Personnel Files are at the RAF Museum… (e.g. contracts)
I don’t know if they have public access but there may be a file for her in there if she applied
Paul
First Rule of Flight Club nobody talks about Flight Club
PS It might be worth writing to Airborne Systems Europe Llangeinor anyway – I have heard they will confirm details but not supply them. So an approach that says “I wonder if you could confirm John Watson Allan” is a member of the Caterpillar Club may work
Of course if you had date you could get a date that would be great!
This is interesting, as the number #89617 was in the box, the Caterpillar has to belong to John Watson Allan. Now it is entirely possible that he gave the badge to your mother-in-law because it was incorrectly engraved with “Allen” her name being “Allen” I wonder if he obtained a correct replacement?, it seems a strange thing to give away otherwise to someone who at that stage was only a sweetheart. We know it has to have after Jan 1941 as he was commissioned on that date with #89617, previously he was #741760 which was a series (740000 to 759999) issued from Jan 1937 RAFVR Pilots.
As to the actual date of the incident I have no idea.. But I think we have the right person
Also what is interesting is that I am sure that the word Night Fighter Pilot was mentioned and John Watson Allan definitely had this in his background
Now, the mysterious pre war double caterpillar on my 1940 Irvin list is down under 1939 as ‘J Allan” firstly as AC1 J Allan RAF and then as LAC Allan (2nd Jump) RAF. A newspaper report at the time says “James Allen” but I am more convinced that it was Allan but first name ??
FlyerNZl
The list covers New Zealand, Australia, South Africa and Canada
and No I cannot find absolutely any evidence of George William Edward Clancey actually bailing out of an aircraft on January 9, 1931 near Ngaruawahia in the North Island after his home made aeroplane caught fire due to fractured petrol line. If it happened Clancey’s aircraft would have been unregistered anyway and not something that would he would have been keen to contact authorities about.
BTW Errol Martyn supplied me with the following on Clancey. He was born 29 August 1910. He gained his ground engineer’s licence (No. 119) in New Zealand on 6 July 1935. In WWII he served with the RNZAF as NZ40464 in the trade of Fitter IIE. He survived the war, including a posting to 488 Sqn in Singapore 1941-1942. He died on 20 September 1982.
Unless you have any other info?
Linzee wondering same thing John Watson. Allan ended up as an Air Commodore
Edward interesting there is no date or number associated with the badge is there? Even in the box?
Thanks Paul
Edward Do you know if he was an officer or not? Unfortunately, there are a number of J W Allens on Air 78 (enlisted man records) on the National Archives website I have just downloaded them to have a look, so to narrow down a service number you would need to finds out roughly when he joined up (if RAF) the service number can help with location of entry and approx date of his full names.. Ie. is he “John William”, “James Walter” etc
Edward
It would help if you could put maybe some context to J W Allen, what nationality was as this relative of your wife? How long has it been in your family? Do you know where he was serving. I have compiled a list of all known UK and Empire Caterpillars up to April 1940 (and full details where known). There is a Aircraftman 1st Class James Allen on it. I am not saying it is the same man (Allen is a common name) and the person I have has no middle initial listed and could be Allan, not Allen but what was quite un-usual about him is he was pre-war “double” caterpillar, Firstly on March 6, 1939 at Bradfield, Yorkshire and secondly sometime around June 1939 (where he is now a Leading Aircraftsman). In both cases the aircraft serial and type is unknown to me but I believe he was with 226 Sqn flying as crew in Fairey Battles
Andy
I was thinking very much the same thing. I cannot believe an aircraft can’t take hitting the water at speed and cartwheeling without much more damage to the airframe
Dunno
But if it has gone forever, try
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/home.htm
Paul