OK if you look up Gawler Aviation and Military Museum (the organisation linked to the names on the faceboo bookk) you have to find http://www.gammsa.com.au no longer exists
however it is archived on the way back machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20040222051943/http://www.gammsa.com.au/otherincidents.htm
Of all the aircraft that crashed into Lake Victoria only 1 Wirraway remains missing. Of the others
“Flight Sergeant Kenneth George Wolkenhaar RAAF died on 21 December 1943 when his Spitfire aircraft crashed into the bank of Lake Victoria. Wolkenhaar misjudged the height of sand dunes and during evasive actions, crashed. Wolkenhaar survived the initial crash but died nearly four hours later as a result of the serious injuries he sustained. His is buried at the Mildura War Cemetery. Research indicates Wolkenhaar suffered poor vision, this was recorded on his service file, along with numerous warnings about his erratic flying manoeuvres. The aircraft was so badly damaged and destroyed by fire that it was buried and left on site.”
This is the aircraft were are discussing as a possiblity MA395 / A58-241 – I note that bits were ‘buried on site’
“The book” mentions that for MA395 / A58-241 “Tail section Recovered” and along and wing – I see a tail section in the photo (having seen the full size pictures now)
Page 192 of ‘the boo’?
Mark
Ok so what the story in MA395 then?
yep Air Britain
http://www.ab-ix.co.uk/firstfiles.html
See
Italian prewar register by Malcolm Filmore
Paul
From Col Bruggy on RAFCommands
John L Hobler – was Australian in RAF
“John Hobler had a second forced-landing in the tree-tops, whilst doing a low-flying run over the airfield to drop a target he had been towing, which was being used for naval practice. A clogged fuel line stalled the engine, he ran out of power, and time as well, he had to make an instant decision for a pan-cake landing, on to the tops of the rubber trees in a plantation, to avoid hitting some local houses in a kampong.”
See:
Men of Vision Over Capricorn:A Story of Aviation History in Central Queensland.
Cousins,Glenn S.
Bowen Hills:Boolarong Publications,1994.
His first forced landing was 21-Oct-34 Vilderbeest K2931 of 100Sqn crashed in Malayan jungle
pp.241-2
I think I may have found it 100% this time!
28-Sep-37 Vilderbeest K2929 of 100Sqn crashed at Seletar
The Straits Times, 29 September 1937, Page 12
Crashed on Rubber Estate!
Dropped a Drogue!
Force landing in Rubber Plantation on outskirts of Seletar Aerodrome. After motor ‘cut out’. Plane extensively damagde but only one occupant LAC Bolter suffered any injury – Superficial. Machine returning to aerodrome after carrying out exercises and had just dropped a drogue it had been towing when the motor stopped. The pilot had no option but to make a forced landing and brought the machine down in a rubber plantation.
Crew
Flt/Lt Hobler
Lt Home – Royal Artillery
LAC Bolter
All
See
Crew
P/O J F Hober (Australian)
LAC Friday (Wireless Operator) London
Air Gunner LAC Milne (NZ)
21-Oct-34 Vilderbeest K2931 of 100Sqn crashed in Malayan jungle.
http://www.100squadronassociation.org.uk/history2.html
“Other aspects of training included high level bombing from 8000 to 10000 feet, air to air and air to sea gunnery exercises, photographic and visual reconnaissance and target towing. On one such exercise, the pilot of K2931 crash-landed in the jungle. The recovery of the aircraft involved a heroic week’s trek through dense jungle fighting swarms of insects, leeches and torrential rain. Parts of the aircraft were ‘ferried’ back to Bekok on a daily basis. At the end of the expedition, the RAF personnel all had beards and were almost unrecognisable, but their sheer guts and determination meant that 100 Squadron had one more aircraft for the struggle that was yet to come. “
Laurie
I have a round 25 Far East Vilderbeest accidents betwen 1934 and 1939 a lot are ditched at sea or collisions so can be discounted except
21-Oct-34 Vilderbeest K2931 of 100Sqn crashed in Malayan jungle.
28-Sep-37 Vilderbeest K2929 of 100Sqn crashed at Seletar.
30-Aug-38 Vilderbeest K2933 of 100Sqn crashed in forced landing.
15-Sep-38 Vilderbeest K2936 of 4AACU crashed on landing, Seletar.
15-Sep-38 Vilderbeest K2936 of 4AACU crashed on landing, Seletar.
01-Nov-38 Vilderbeest K4172 of 36Sqn crashed nr Seletar.
The 30 Aug 1938 date may be a mis quote for August 30th 1937 incident
Laurie
I saw the picture, I am wondering if tbney pulled the aircraft off the beach through the plantation – It would have been a difficult recovery off a muddy beach
the source was Singapore Newspapers Archive
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Default.aspx
Paul
may be this incident
A Vickers Vildebeest crashed onto a beach near Kuala Muda Kedah on August 30th 1937. The Pilot wa Sgt Hanbury who decided to landed on a mud beach as he was running out of petrol on a formation flight of 5 Vickers Vildebeests.
He thought sand was firm enough to land, but planes wheels got stuck deep in mud and the machine toppled over on its sde. The phot looks like it shows lower wing damage.
Other 4 planes proceeded to Penang, and launches were sent to plane and 3 crew OK. Sgt Hanbury, Sgt Chaplain and LAC Pick except for shock.
Plane badly damaged and the rest of formation left Penang for Singapore on August 31st 1937
BURMA APRIL 1 1945 STOP
FROM HEAD SEAC STOP
HAVE NEW CRATED 120 SPITFIRE MK 14 STOP
SHALL I RETURN TO UK OR ARRANGE LOCAL DISPOSAL STOP
MOUNTBATTEN STOP
The caa list it as 5487. What would bring BW874 into the picture?
See http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=268430
“Hurricane researcher JE Vernon”
There is not much that Jerry Vernon doesn’t know about CCF Hurricanes
Re “R30040” has anyone confirmed that this is RCAF 5487 or actually Sea Hurricane BW874?