RE: There is no such thing as war on terrorism
I’m sorry Geforce, but war is all about black and white. You can’t fight an enemy and say: well, he’s not so bad, and we’re not that good people either. That is not gonna work.
But it might help if you choose you analogies more carefull. I did read your entire post, and it didn’t make sense to me at all. The entire Western world should be alert for terrorism. Muslim extremists made it very clear that they want to destroy the entire western world, but that they would start with the US and the Jews. But the entire Western world is in danger. Perhaps not in acute danger, but it is. Just the other day there was a story in a news program, called NOVA, about what some imams preach in the Netherlands. Shocking, to say the least. They detest Western society, they want Westerners to either be converted to Islam, or to be killed. And that, Geforce, is dangerous. It would really help if the EU, and European countries would start to understand that.
Shalom,
Jonathan
RE: There is no such thing as war on terrorism
So actually Al Qaida are the good guys now? And no muslim extremists perpetrate horrific acts of violence. Hmm, interesting view.
RE: There is no such thing as war on terrorism
So actually Al Qaida are the good guys now? And no muslim extremists perpetrate horrific acts of violence. Hmm, interesting view.
RE: Weird development of this thread…
Dutchy, the children, no, the people in Iraq are suffering because the regime wants them to suffer, to show the world how bad the West is, or how bad the US is. Fact is, that SH has built numerous palaces after the sanvtions came into effect. Fact is, that Iraq has bought weapons after the sanctions came into effect. Fact is, that Iraq exports oil illegally through Syria and via other ways. Does Iaq buy medication and food for it’s people with that money? NO. Instead, it offers money to Palestinian’victims’, and it sends medication (!), you know, that stuff Iraq is allegedly lacking, to the Palestinians. I’m sorry Dutchy, but the suffering of the Irqi people has little to do with the embargo.
Shalom,
Jonathan
RE: Weird development of this thread…
Dutchy, the children, no, the people in Iraq are suffering because the regime wants them to suffer, to show the world how bad the West is, or how bad the US is. Fact is, that SH has built numerous palaces after the sanvtions came into effect. Fact is, that Iraq has bought weapons after the sanctions came into effect. Fact is, that Iraq exports oil illegally through Syria and via other ways. Does Iaq buy medication and food for it’s people with that money? NO. Instead, it offers money to Palestinian’victims’, and it sends medication (!), you know, that stuff Iraq is allegedly lacking, to the Palestinians. I’m sorry Dutchy, but the suffering of the Irqi people has little to do with the embargo.
Shalom,
Jonathan
RE: Same old anti – US Crap
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 17-06-02 AT 09:34 AM (GMT)]So we should sacrifice democracy, and let the Taiwanese be ruled by a totalitarian regime? Great. Just great.
RE: Same old anti – US Crap
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 17-06-02 AT 09:34 AM (GMT)]So we should sacrifice democracy, and let the Taiwanese be ruled by a totalitarian regime? Great. Just great.
RE: What Languages do you speak?
Dutch is my native language. English is my ‘runner up’, I speak it quite fluently. Futhermore I can speak and write quite a bit of French and German. HMy Hebrew though is bit limited: I learned it as a young child, so my Hebrew is a bit childish. Yet a few years ago I learned to read, though on a very, very limited basis.
RE: PIM FORTUYN has been SHOT
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 11-05-02 AT 11:48 AM (GMT)]I’m sorry, but here we disagree. By constantly trying to push him in the extreme right corner, by asking questions like: are you the Dutch Haider or Le Pen, and by politicians like Tom de Graaf, using Anne Frank for his own political purposes and thus comparing Fortuyn to Hitler, they demonized him, thus creating an atmosphere in which a politically motivated murder could take place. Whether you like him or not has got nothing to do with it.
Shalom,
Jonathan
RE: PIM FORTUYN has been SHOT
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-05-02 AT 08:05 PM (GMT)]It seems someone has already been arrested, the motive isn’t clear yet, but I strongly suspect a political motive. I do, however, put part of the blame on some politicians and certain media, who were very anti-Fortuyn.
RE: Sa’ar 5
Israel indeed doesn’t have large shipyards, and it is also probably funded by US tax dollars. Sorry Vortex ;).
RE: Breaking News — We’ll miss ya, Kenny
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-05-02 AT 07:29 PM (GMT)]Actually, Kenny is trying very hard to get off the drugs now. I’se seen unconfirmed reports that he is currently at the Betty Ford Clinic.
RE: The UN
The point with Syria was that a country which is known for actively supporting terrorism, can be a temporary member in the Security Council, and can influence decisions there. UN regulations do not allow nations involved in acts of aggression to take a temprorary seat in the Council. And then in the newspapers it’s always reported that a UN Security Council resolution ‘calling on Israel yada yada yada …’ was blocked by a US veto, as if the US is wrong when taking such a measure. When you look at which countries actually preside in the Council, one can only laugh. Did you know Israel is the only country in the UN that can’t get a temporary seat in the Security Council?
As for the UN after 1956: the mandate was something like preventing the two sides from fighting. Well, when one side chose it wanted to fight, the UN immedtiately pulled back it’s troops to make room for the Egyptian troops. But when Israel defended itself with a pre-emptive strike, guess who was condemned for aggression?
The UN
Actually i would see the UN as the guardian of the Isreali state
This was actually tried after the Sinai Campaign of 1956. The UN was supposed to safeguard Israel from Egyptian aggression. But when push came to shove, and Nasser wanted the UN out of the Sinai, the UN left. IMO, not a viable option. A more recent expample is the Sebrenica affair. You don’t seriously expect other nations to send their boys and girls to defend another state?
It just that the recent brutal action of the Israelis forced them to act against you guys.
Back this up with facts, instead of generalizing statements like this. And, for the record, the UN has been anit-Israel for a long time.
Beside the UN is the most prominent world body and any action should reflect the world views as a whole.
Sure, champions of human rights like Cuba, China and Syria are free to criticize Israel’s brutal behaviour against the Palestinians. What a joke. Syria is in the Security Council, even though UN regulations prohibits aggressors to take a seat in the Council as temporary member. The world is not necessarlily right, Tomel.
At the moment the Israelis does not get the backing it used to get.
Israel never got world backing, even not after 1948, when numerous Arab states set out to destroy the Jewish State, or in 1973, when Syria and Egypt once again tried to destroy Israel. Once again, the wordl is not neceesarily right.
Djcross, you’re right on top. This certainly wouldn’t be the first UN investigation in which facts are covered up, and not the last either.
Shalom,
Jonathan
RE: After learning more about West Beirut..
This wouldn’t be the first UN team who’se only mission is to blaim Israel. Just remember that the UN rights commission already called Jenin a massacre. I just can’t see how the outcome of this ‘investigation’ can differ much from that. At best the commission says that no evidence of a massacre was discovered, but that the ‘large scale demolition was unjustified’. The UN has a very bad record vis-a-vis Israel.