Hi All,
According to wiki Coastal Command couldn’t manage in the early part of the war until it got it’s act together in1942, while this was going on it was the RAF Fighter Command who stepped up and managed things.
” But the command could not protect English Channel convoys, and was forced to abandon operations until July 1940. RAF Fighter Command was given the task, supplying air attack and defence with the enemy”
However they did have some Fairy Battles so could the German misidentified the aircraft ? If not then obviously Coastal Command Spitfire is a misnomer and I would look at RAF loss records for the set time period after all the search clues are all there.
Yorkshire East Coast – Nth &Sth / Spitfire units Sqdns based in area / Heinkel reconnaissance aircraft losses / Fishing boat – Ports / German attacks:- ENG Press:- ” the German Air Force carried out no fewer than 15 different raids over the east coast of Britain on Tuesday” & GER Press:- ” The German news agency says German bombers at midday successfully attacked a British convoy in the northern section of the North Sea.”
” The Spitfire shot down yesterday was the only loss suffered during the German raids on the British coast and convoys. ” This is one of the best clues IMPO, so you are looking for a Spitfire that was shot down off the Nth Yorkshire coast basically and it was the only one ever.
A couple of oddities in the article:- Fishing boat and a lewis gun Q – Were Civi fishing boats armed in WW2 ? / Having said all the above I did notice the date, so was it a fools day stretch of the truth to buck the Civi’s up ?
All references courtesy of original post and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Coastal_Command#Commanders_in_Chief
Geoff.
Hi All,
I sent an email to Monteith fisheries as I figured if anybody would know they would, the manager told of a personal anecdote told to him some years ago is:-
” the Spitfire had been removed, and no records were made by the MOD “
Still all little pieces make a bigger jigsaw eh?
Geoff.
Hi All,
Just found this on the subject:- https://canmore.org.uk/site/294695/vickers-supermarine-spitfire-iia-lake-of-menteith
Looks like somebody who was involved in the survey knows where it is, scrolling to the bottom of the page a update from 2018 a chap Nick Marsh notes the location marker is wrong and the OS Map coordinates are the correct ones.
Geoff.
Hi All,
Battle Of Britain for accuracy of events portrayed / Mosquito Sqdn / Heroes Of Telemark / Bombardment (2021 still available on Netflix) An historical fact based film featuring the tragic accidental bombing of a school instead of the Gestapo HQ in Copenhagen, Denmark.
( Incidentally the Mosquito flying sequences appear to CGI based on the actual footage from the raid ? in this rather sad film I personally thought the flying sequences where really good.)
I suppose at the end of the day the film companies have to fill a certain length of time to keep audiences engaged often sacrificing reality for artistic licence and filling in gaps between the action with unknown events or a fictitious story lines to fluff up bit of a dull movie otherwise. I cannot imagine a film that has non stop action from start to finish that are based on true event accounts unless they are really short films ?
Geoff.
Hi All,
I read the OP and just ran, it was Brylcreem Boys as pointed out by the first reply by JDK and others alike, I had just neglected to read all the other replies that’ll teach me 🙁
Anyway I dug around on’t interweb and found this 2017 thread https://hmvf.co.uk/topic/37960-tv-drama-programme/ by (colinmbarron1956 ) Courtesy of https://hmvf.co.uk/ He comments on an article regarding this drama that was written for the TV/Times, he also wrote an unused Flypast article, along with his book titled:- Planes On Film.- Colin M. Barron.
Sadly the thread drifts into Airline so I suspect it as already pointed out is Purple Twilight, yet I cannot find a DVD or any other media of how to view the drama if in archives somewhere I guess I’ll have to contact ITV and see if they can help.
Geoff.
Hi All,
A very belated HAPPY NEW YEAR for 2023!! to all forumites.
Right then the play I think you are referring to is this below!!
Take you pick of playing options but Youtube seems to be on the nail:- https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Brylcreem+Boys+BBC+2+PLAY&rlz=1C1CH…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf9Qxoh4KU
I even found a long since dead thread:- https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-aviation/81949-the-brylcreem-boys-p…
EDIT:- Wow!! Very strong and emotional drama with a very young Timothy Spall, you have to give all the actors credit they all play they’re characters with such feeling and realism. The play really drags you into the story being portrayed, it will give a new perspective of what it was like to be part of a bomber crew to those who actually watch it.
As for myself I actually started to feel a little claustrophobic watching the drama unfold, I cannot imagine the nerve it would take to actually go through what those brave men did. Every time they flew on a sortie and to go through that whole range of emotions while trapped inside an aluminium tube for Hr’s before you knew you were finally safe back on the ground again,
To think they then had to repeat that experience time and time again is so unimaginable, it is very understandable how some had problems that left them traumatised for the rest of their life especially witnessing what they did and surviving while 57’205 lost their lives, very saddening.
Geoff.
Hi All,

I love this photo of the Jet Art Sea Harrier FA.2 ZH798 featured in the article below.. (Photo by Jet Art Aviation/Chris North)
2021 article about Jet Arts SHAR FA.2 ZH798 restoration (Courtesy https://warbirdsnews.com/ )
Article and pictures:- https://warbirdsnews.com/warbird-restorations/sea-harrier-fa-2-taxiing-…
What about the Harriers at RNAS Culdrose that were/are used for carrier jet handling training I presume they are still active ? I know up until last year they were.
Geoff.
Hi All,
From they’re Facebook page also 😮 )

When the Tempest starts flying a double dose of this maybe ? :O )
https://www.facebook.com/UltimateWarbirdFlights/videos/-fast-lane/14965…
In the meantime another up and coming first flight beckons
https://www.facebook.com/1785419121510239/videos/478523674159124/?__so_…
Geoff.
Hi All,
Prop Strike – I would like to take the credit for the picture but I Googled it and there are plenty to choose from as it happened, I will amend my post to credit the photographer I just thought it looked the part.
It was just a quick glimpse just by chance, saw it pass between our house and next doors alley walls. I heard the Chinook coming, just in right place at the right time gardening. I went inside and checked the flightradar web site and watched while posting the info yesterday, it flew south passed Oxford and that was that! 😮 )
Geoff.
Hi All,
9-mins ago – RAF Chinook – ZH900 18:25 heading Sth.

Photo courtesy of:- Keith Haywood – ZH900 Chinook HC.5 ‘Valhalla05’ camera ship. https://www.flickr.com/photos/132294337@N04/39732524371/
Geoff.
Hi All,
Aerotony – Many thanks for the info.
Geoff.
Hi All,
Looked over the Historic and Classic sales web page https://historicandclassicaircraftsales.com/category/aircraft_sale and there are still some good warbirds for sale along wit projects. Of note are listed below so if have a a spare few hundred of thousand/million and don’t know what to do with it buy a ready built or put one back in the air where they belong. 😮 )
Yak 1 – With it’s original Klimov engine being restored ? but has an exchanged Klimov sounds lovely (See video on the description page).
Sopwith Dove G-EAGA / Mustang – (Private Sale) / Me109 G10/U4 / Sea Vixen XP294 (Ex Navy Wings – G-CVIX) / Spitfire IIa P7913 (City Of B’ham) / DH Dove/Sea Devon XJ324-(Ex G-AMXZ ) / Stamp SV4 G-BPLM (Algerian built) / Spitfire (Private Sale) / DH Tiger Moth (VH-RVE)./ Fouga Magister CM170 – (YS 398 E) / BAC Strikemaster 88 x 2 ( VH-JFZ – Ex RNZAF 6363 & VH-ONP – Ex RNZAF 6371) / Hawker Hunter GA11 – XF301 (No Engine).
All above aircraft have accompanying pictures and descriptions except for the Private sales..
https://www.facebook.com/people/Historic-and-Classic-Aircraft-Sales/100024790185221/
Geoff.
Hi All,
On the evening of 07/09 just as the darkness was complete I heard that lovely thud,thud,thud of a Chinook in the distance as it approached our area, stepped outside the back door to observe if possible but all I saw was the flashing lights very low.
Nipped upstairs to see if it was on Flightradar24 but nothing ? ? ? Could this have been a special ops training flight ? seems odd as Leamington does not get the military traffic it used to sadly.
The Chinook was flying east west and bearing in mind that Hereford is East’ish from my location the more I lean to a special ops training flight, still it’s only an assumption and we all know Assuming makes an Ass out of U&Me 😮 )
Geoff.
Hi All,
Zac Yates:- Thank you for the missing link and have rectified my error 😮 )
In the meantime for all those interested in all things Tempest this site will satisfy hopefully with regular updates. https://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php
Updates on what restorations are taking place in particular the two we are nattering about, MW763 History:- https://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/mw7633
MW376 History:- https://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/mw3762
One project of particular interest I noted is that of WW2 veteran Tempest V – JN768 which has a number of V1 kills both of it’s own and shared, this aircraft is stored awaiting it’s possible airworthy restoration after Typhoon RB396 by the Typhoon Preservation Group.
https://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/jn768
Geoff.
Hi All,
dhfan – https://www.statista.com/statistics/323379/electricity-export-volumes-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/
From July 14th in the Financial times https://www.ft.com/content/517f2786-2acf-4d28-9dc7-fc5db835479e


If the article is true then why are we facing these massive energy rises ?? again when you consider what Macron has told EDF to cap it’s prices why cannot the UK do exactly the same and make them stick to it.
Am I wrong in thinking these companies are just thinking of their share holders rather than the customers ?
I new that the UK had been exporting Liquid Gas and had heard recently on a video about exporting electricity. I agree with your zealots labelling, as with the idiots blocking Roads and gluing they’re hands to whatever they fancy just bullying there way for whatever cause they think of next.
Geoff.