…why not Hawk T.2s???
Supermarine 300:
Been doing some Googling on the Ki-21, and it appears that it was a wreck recovery, on show at the Thai Railway Hall of Fame in Bangkok. Only pictures I could find are here:
http://2bangkok.com/2bangkok-trhf-index.html
I read elsewhere that the museum closed last year, so the future of the wreckage doesn’t look particularly healthy.
The Smithsonian Institution/National Air and Space Museum have a veritable squadron of unique Axis types, survivors of the shiploads bought back to the US for evaluation in 1945.
A quick look at “Axis Aircraft” shows up the following:
Arado Ar-234
Bachem Ba-349
Heinkel He-219
Dornier Do-335
Focke-Wulf TA-152
Junkers Ju-388
Horten III and VI gliders
Horten Ho-229
Lippisch DM-1
Nagler-Rolz NR54 “helicopter”
Aichi M6 Seiran
Aichi B7A1 “Grace”
Kyushu J7W Shinden
Nakajima B6N “Jill”
Nakajima C6M “Myrt”
Nakajima J1N “Irving”
Nakajima Ki-115
Nakajima Kikka
Yokosuka P1Y1 “Frances”
I believe all those are unique as complete aircraft.
There are quite a few in Britain! Hawker Typhoon, Supermarine Stranraer, Boulton-Paul Defiant in the RAF Museum, for example, plus Fairey Albacore and Fairey Fulmar at the Fleet Air Arm Museum.
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Interesting idea. Presumably in Cat.1 you mean “original” as in “original from when it came out of service? Nobody would dispute P9306, R6915 etc are in original WW2 condition, but no doubt they had parts replaced in service, and aren’t “original” in the sense that they have all the parts they came out of the factory with.
Where would you put a “Cat.2” aircraft like Hurricane LF363 which had a major crash and substantial post-crash rebuild. Cat.6, perhaps?
Geoff,
I was just repeating what was mentioned last time someone asked this question, and hadn’t heard about the Halifax project-do you mean the current effort to find LW170 in the Irish Sea or the earlier restoration of NA337 now at Trenton? I understand the former (if found and raised, sounds a rather big “if”) is intended for flight, but hadn’t heard about them finding any engines.
I guess if they can find the appropriate engines, then that would be very encouraging, and plausibly they could then use the Hendon aircraft as a template for ancilliaries.
The tyre issue may be something I was imagining, can someone else confirm or deny it?
As for Stephen Grey not being able to fly it, I hadn’t heard that either- and as you say it surely would be relatively simple for him to do a twin-engine taildragger conversion on, say, a DC-3.
Hi, it went to the San Diego Air and Space Museum (according to Wikipedia, anyway)
EDIT: Link
http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/collection_item.php?id=28
I’m well excited! Been waiting for the Gladiator double for what seems like forever…
I think the problems with the Beaufighter are technical: specifically TFC have found it impossible to find or restore suitable Hercules engines for the aircraft. There are lots of late Hercules engines around, but I sure I remember reading that the coolant and exhaust plumbing is so totally different that they cannot be plumbed into the Beaufighter. There may also have been some issues with finding serviceable tyres or wheels?
Add that to the mountain of work they have had to undertake to get all the other aircraft re-certified and airworthy, and it’s easy to see why the Beaufighter (and Sea Fury FB.11) have sat idle for so many years.
It’s a bit of a shame really, I personally would rather TFC accept that the Beau is a bit of a lost cause as far as flight goes, and instead see the airframe statically restored to a high standard, and added to the IWM collection. It’s a pretty iconic type that TFC are missing, and the aircraft would be a superb addition to the Coastal/Naval displays, for example.
Same with the Sea Fury, which is a pretty important piece of Korean War heritage absent from the IWM collection. Now TFC have a living, breathing Sea Fury T.20, it’d be great to see the FB.11 in one piece with the IWM. The space cleared in Hangar 2 would be considerable, and allow the collection to perhaps take on a few more different projects…
It’s interesting to watch older folks harking back to the “good old days”-invariably the airshows that they went to as a child.
For me in my early twenties, the days of the 1950s and 1960s are as distant as the age of dinosaurs, the first airshow I went to was RIAT 1997.
However, even in my 15 years of airshow attendance, it’s noticeable that shows featuring modern military aircraft (RIAT in particular) aren’t what they were when I started going. I remember walking with my dad along what seemed like miles of static displays, with multicoloured C-130s of every concievable nationality, walk-through C-5s aplenty, and apparently endless Phantoms, KC-135s, F-16s, Mig-29s and Tornados.
Nowadays participation by air forces generally seems to have shrunk to a shadow of its former self, and airshows like RIAT have relentlessly diversified to attract punters of different ages
and shorter attention spans: fairground rides, pop singers and simulators seem to me to be taking the place of wierd and wonderful static displays.
Contrary to that, Hampden 98 is right, the historic scene is ever-growing, and I feel priviledged to have witnessed a veritable explosion of new restorations take to the display circuit. When I was a child there was no Vulcan, Meteor T.7, Demon, etc even if I had been able to go and see them. So it’s also been a real joy growing up, gaining independence and being able to travel farther afield, and immerse myself in shows that I could only dream of getting to as a child, like Classic Jets at Kemble, Flying Legends and of course Shuttleworth on a fine summer evening.
Not all has changed for the worse, but I do think it’ll be interesting to see what airshows look like 50 years down the line, when I can muse on threads like this about how great things were in the ’90s and ’00s!
Given the nature of the products made in there, I’m amazed that factory was simply closed with everything left like that. What a treasure trove for the enterprising burglar/would-be arms dealer!
What a superb achievement! Well done RAFM for persevering under clearly rather difficult conditions. All the more amazing when you consider the thinness of the skin (look at some of the wing panels hanging off in the video!)
Looking forward to seeing this unique survivor in the flesh.
Is that the serial, painted under the prop spanning the Night/White demarcation line? Looks like it might be **798. K9798, perhaps?
Great work so far, and thanks for a super website to show us how you’re getting on! The entertaining diary updates and in-depth history will keep me following progress!
Excellent stuff, he’s nailed the proportions of the aircraft and the lighting, which have always struck me as the hardest things to get right. As others have said the clouds on the Hurricane picture are particularly dramatic.
There’s some superb work going on over there. Do they have an identity for their Anson?