Cosford’s Varsity in 2007: 
Does anyone have any pictures of the RAF Museum’s reclusive Valletta? I’ve only ever seen one rather hazy shot of a fuselage, and have always wondered if they hold a set of wings and whether, given its rarity, it will ever get restored and out on display. It’d look very nice next to the Varsity, the only such display possible anywhere. I suppose it’s pretty low down the list, but are there any other factors preventing its display?
Here’s one for TwinOtter23: The Varsity at Newark from my visit earlier this spring, in which I was fascinated to be given a tour of its interior by one of Newark’s delightful volunteers.
I have noted down 7 Vikings, 2 Vallettas, and 8 Varsities, but some of these are a bit tenuous.
Minimum 5 Vikings, 2 Vallettas, 7 Varsities!
What a beautiful gleaming machine, in a beautiful gleaming workshop! How do you keep everything so clean?!
Not really historic, but I witnessed a superb Red Arrows display (at the Bristol Ballon fiesta) from behind today whilst in pursuit of small feathery flying things.
I agree. Steve, I did ask a question about its originality (hopefully un-sullied by negativity) in the previous thread, not because I think that such things actually detract from the sight and sound of a Spitfire I in the air (far from it!) but because I am a 21-year old student who has never had the chance to tinker with Spitfires.I am honestly interested in the work and process that goes into restoring something like this: The process of going from a soggy wreck on a beach to a living, breathing, flying machine fascinates me. The originality does not for me detract from the beauty and quality of the finished product, but the process of restoration intrigues me. For that reason, I shall be very temped by Andy’s book when it comes out, but even more excited to finally see P3974 fly.
I must say I always thought that the inital sketches of a delta bomber were from Chadwick’s notebook, but I’m happy to be proved wrong! At any rate, weren’t the initial proposals for the Vulcan initially tailess (with endplate fins?) Regardless of this, it seems to me that both were parallel designs drawing on the German delta reserach rather than anything else.
It’s well worth reading the whole of Hiram Maxim’s article in that book. His description of the “next war in the air” is soberingly prescient…
He predicts strategic bombing, the realities of fighter combat, the V-1, and even innovations like heat-seeking missiles that didn’t come into action until decades later.
I’ve never been: it looks mouthwatering.
Strolling through, you realise just how much the museum kicks the socks off our own national museums. Of course, there are more types to preserve, more money to do it with and generally more government support in the USA, but even taking this into account, the superb lighting, loose, thoughtful arrangement of aircraft, beautifully done dioramas and excellent layout really are a whole cut above, say Hendon, Cosford or Yeovilton. Not to say that our museums aren’t good-they are still something to be immensely proud of-it’s just that the USAF museum is so fabulous that they look shabby by comparison.
And fancy making such a marvellous tour! I don’t think I’ve ever seen one half as good.
Many thanks for posting, this could keep me amused for hours.
Is it actually from a TSR.2? Can’t imagine there would be many of that particular engine subtype kicking around.
Also, if it was in your living room, imagine trying to dust it!
Gloster F9/37, easily.
…Hyderabad?
She is indeed a sumptuous machine.
WITHOUT wishing to open any cans of worms as to the merits or otherwise of such restorations of wrecks (I don’t care either way if we get to see such a fabulous sight and sound in the air) roughly which/how much original parts actually made it into P9374 as we see her now? I assume that after 40+ years on a beach much of the actual structure was not useable?
To me any new aquisition in these relatively chastened times is to be applauded, though I do take the point about the collection policy. I would certainly like to see the Demon stay at OW and would probably prefer it to the Wildcat if given a choice, however I appreciate this is more due to me having an undue love of Hawker biplanes rather than a sensible, objective appreciation of the collecting policy.
Ultimately Shuttleworth have done a good thing: better a Wildcat than no aquisition at all. It adds a nice bit of variety to the collection where the Demon wouldn’t (yes, it looks pretty next to the Hind, but they are rather similar types). Indeed, I wholly approve of them acquiring foreign vintage types as they provide a nice contrast to their British counterparts
At any rate, it’ll still carry on being a fabulous venue with a collection to match. I made my first ever visit there for the Midsummer airshow, and came away thinking that Shuttleworth is one of the loveliest places I have ever been.
I love Legends and am sad I missed it, but I also love my 84-year old grandfather who was getting married today, and am totally glad I went to this instead. At any rate, the Fury won’t have flown yet…
What a splendid thread. Thank you very much, Peter, for sharing your reminiscences. For a 21 year old like me the RAF of the 1950s is something one reads about in books, so your tales really bring the period to life!