The error I made is a later confirmation / fix of the regimental numbers and bases:
Lot 01 (2010) – 30. Fighter Division / 89. Regiment at Datong-Pulandian – 40x1x-numbers (PLAAF)
Lot 02 (2010/11) – 19. Fighter Division / 57. Regiment at Zhengzhou – 31x0x-numbers (PLAAF)
Lot 03 (2010/11) – 8. Fighter Division / 24th Regiment at Jialaishi – 81x8x-numbers (PLANAF)… this is a naval J-11BH
Lot 04 (2011) – 37. Fighter Division / 111. Regiment at Korla – 41x8x-numbers (PLAAF)
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Good observations, it seems more evidences to support the counting.
A newly painted J11B flying over vicinity of SAC was caught in camera, the number 0329 near the left air intake suggests it is the 29th J11B from Lot 3 production. The Size of J11B batch production is impressive– at least it easily wins over batch sizes of J11A built from Russian kits.
In these several years, PLAAF & PLANAF have added more than 100 J11B/BS, that put number of Flankers in PLA service more than 400, a heavy fleet size only next to that of USAF/USN combined. Up to date, there are more than 200 WS10 turbofan engines in the field run, alongside more than 1000 AL31F/FN engines.
A J11B in premier color, the highlights: increased using of composite material & WS10 turbofan engines.
A very clear shot of CFTE WS10 engine flight testbed, converted from a SAC J11A built on Russian kit ( only AL31F being replaced by WS10 engine) đ
…Although the PAF seems well stocked for long range stand-off weapons, such as the Ra’ad ALCM and the H-1/H-2 series of PGMs, would it be possible to adapt the YJ-83 and/or C-802a for land attack?
There is land attack version of C802A, called C802AKG using TV guidance.
Howevr, I’m not sure there’s export version of KD-88 anti-radar missile?
IMHO, a land attack comes in the anti-radar version is better, compared to TV guidance.
Anyway, the JF is integrated with not only anti-ship missile but also standoff GPS guided LS-6 smart bomb.
For a 25 million bucks single engine fighter, the options provided are quite impressive
Actually I don’t know … but I also don’t know why the early F-15/-16 can’t be reengined with PW and/or GE engines and later can do ! As such there would be some changes necessary which make that possible for the later ones – similar to the J-11B, J-15 and J-10B (maybe) – but not to the early J-10 and J-11.
…Deino
Hi, actually even the old J11A ( well, those J11 built with Russian kits) featuring the common engine bay sort of arrangment, so the WS10 can replace the AL31F without any structual modification on the airframe. However, even the GE129 can replace a PW229 in the F15E, the F15E still need do some adjustments for the change. I think J11A also need undergo such routes if the WS10 is required to replace AL31F reaching life span. However, the production of WS10 is barely enough for the new birds ( J11B/Bs, J15, J10B etc), only new production capacity can fullfil the replacement need for the aged J11 fleet. However, WS10 can’t replace the AL31F used in directly imported Su27SK/30MK etc. it can only be replaced by imported AL31F.
Considering the SAC has produced the J11 series with legally acquired Flank airframe design for such long period, itâs rather stupid to image SAC will develop a stopgate solution using a different airframe design just to satisfy internet fanboysâ ânot a rip-offâ demand. The Su33 shipborne fighter is naturally based on Su27 airframe, why not the same for J15 based on J11B airframe? Itâs just no need run pages to pages to tell those fanboys this simple logic, they take it or forget it, national interests always come 1st before fanboys nationalistic interests.
Yes, SAC has acquired T10K the su33 prototype for analysis, this practice is just quite common in todayâs business world. Itâs hard to image one high tech company doesnât take the product of its competitor for counter analysis. Even this can happen in between allies, the US suspects South Koreans have broken sealed components of âTiger Eyeâ for F15K and stolen the technology:
Check here: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/11/01/2011110101121.html
If those fanboys just want to single out China and make the case the whole story, either they are fooling themselves or wanting some1 to take the bait.
If they can only focus on the appearance, and never minding âappearance can cheatâ. Of course they wonât care even within the Sukhoi Flanker family, the flankers all appear the same. However, the same appearance doesnât tell thereâre fundamental structure differences between an air-superiority Su27 airframe & multirole Su30 airframe. Janeâs reported long ago the J11B has structural difference from Su27SK which resulting in 800kgs weight saving.
Look at the J15, it features wide-angle holographic HUD, more ECM arrangements, WS-10 engines, most likely an electronically scanned FCR, FBW. Everything different except the appearance. Itâs sad a good platform like Su33 is being killed in its homeland, and J15 is reviving a legend, well, I personally like bigger is better, this is especially true when it comes to the shipborne role.
where?? Please tell me a website. i will do my own research.
Well, look no further, your media has reported recently quoting the words of AVIC bossâ
Since 2009, China used Taihang engines, developed and produced by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), have been fitted to the double engine J-11 fighter jets, its J-15 carrier-based variant and an upgraded version of the J-10 single engine fighter.
Lin Zuoming, President AVIC said it had taken 20 years to develop the Taihang, a Chinese engine and that work on the engine was progressing very well.
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-09-22/news/30189625_1_engine-maker-jf-17-turbofan
Also in that report, actually you can see China has yet rectified the widely reported export of hundred+ AL31F from Russia, which yet again, put a pinch of salt on whatever Russian media like to claim: export of Su27SM, export of Su33, export of Su35 etc.
If you are really interested in China aviation engine development now and thus like a quick dose of inform on the issue, Analysts from US already done a lot of work on this research, in below report, it says:
Chinaâs WS-10 Taihang turbofan engine and its derivatives have performance parameters on par with the Pratt & Whitney (P&W) F100 and GE F110 engine families, which power the U.S. F-15 and F-16 fighters. The Taihang family is said to power the J-11B and is also likely slated to eventually take over from the Russian AL-31 as the main powerplant for the J-10 and J-15. Media reports from November 2010 state that a version of the WS-10 Taihang turbofan producing 27,500 lbs of thrust is now in series production and is being used to power the J-11B fighter-bomber.[3] Exhibit 2 (below) shows a timeline of Chinaâs advanced military turbofan production.
It cited PLA official media report that WS-10B ( actually an improved version of WS10 that caused j11B grounding in 2009 has been in series production since Nov 2010.
There is an old thread opened by me and even today it contains inform relevant to WS10 engine now in mass production:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49067
There are China-defense site (need registration) & Sinodefence forum which contains massive images and discussions/reports on WS10 :
http://www.china-defense.com/smf/index.php?topic=2056.420
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/air-force/ws10a-85-252.html
Yet you reacted by posting this. China is going to be next superpower. It should expect questions being asked about it as internet seems to be only way of interaction with the Chinese, that too is limited due to language differences etc.. Have a good day BTW. ;)………. or night where ever you are.
Obviously I have No issue on whatever bad words from your fellow ppl said about the situation, I just came out to stop overreaction to such comment. The reason to counter overreaction is simple and if the reality hurts then I regret for the consequence.
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