J-31 is supposed to be a product for SAC. What you are asking is like asking what a Honda Accord is supposed to be when there is Toyota Camry on the market. SAC needs a product to stay in business and J-31 is that product.

Well said. Furthermore, the fighter will serve as the major user of the AVIC’s medium thrust engine currently still under development, just like WS15 to J20:

How many of the jets on the list are operational? :dev2:
And how many are only paper airplanes?:p

Only 1.

And the other fatty one is infinitely close to be operational

Dude, the title should change to:

What UK should do if Argentina gets the new stealthy fighter.

We will see the fatty or the slim is better. LOL.

SAC is owned by the chinese government. What is the differences between self-funded or contracted? I don’t think SAC can start a project without the approval of the central government. Dont you?

CAC also state owned, and does CAC self funded FC-1/JF-17 get any order from PLAAF or PLANAF? Have you heard FC-1/JF-17 being called ” J-x”?

yep this plane, whether it’s called J-21 or J-31, is clearly smaller than J-20.

Now it’s overall length may be large (still a few meters below J-20 obviously), but its effective length (nose to engine nozzle) is significantly smaller.

This thing will be to J-20 what F-35 is to F-22.

Well. the pics reveal there’s no PLAAF red star (8.1) marking on the vertical fin, indicating it has yet to get the “J” designation from PLA. It bears a logo probably given by SAC itself to show it is just a self-funded commercial project at this moment of time. on the other hand, J-20 does bear the PLAAF read star mark.

Since it’s SAC self funded, the operating mode could be like FC-1 project of CAC, which targets export as premier goal.

It’s CLEARLY smaller. From Xinhui@ CDF

A clearer image 😎

haven’t you realized by now Jones. Chinese fanboys operate by rules of exceptionalism, where assumptions, guesstimates, and pictures are enough proof, and where the wests’ military experience doesn’t apply.

1. So major western warfare academics, intel agencies, reputable defense publishers are all dominated by fanboys if your ranting make sense.

2. This is a PLAN thread, and this kind of reporting has a long tradition in this board, and as far as fact concern, it proven to be the most reliable and accurate and especially, time proven, if you, someone with zero track record on the military knowledge that this board desires the most, but infamous for propaganda ranting, better keep away from here and troll elsewhere.

3. It’s disgusting to see someone disguise some other nation as a cover to carry out his true capability of inflaming. :rolleyes:

If i remember correctly, only Ticos carry spq9B. Burkes have no such radar…

052c is more akin to tico that way, as it does have a fast turning high resolution radar for horizon search, on top of its mast.

And don’t forget the horizon or surface search is not only the case that height matters, resolution is equally import as traditionally only X-or C band as premier surface/horizon search radar for discriminate small targets from dense clutter.

in the case of Aegis ships, many FCRs in X-bands actually attribute to the surface serach/update rate through sensor fusion, and those radars not necessarily to be seated high.

type 45, in my opinion, has merged the roles of all of those radars (almost even the EW radar, as well, except in saturation attack situations where SAMPSON couldn’t track close targets and do long range scanning at the same time as efficiently as RN wanted. That is why that L-band radar is there.) in a single radar sitting high up. It is one of the best aspects of Type 45 design

SAMSON does it best for the compromised solution, but hardly the best, you just can’t ask a surgeon to be doubled up as a cleaner in the name of “merged roles”, while a pethetic outcome can be cheered as ” glory”, and by this point, I know Jonesy never fails to entertain me on a otherwise boring day, each time we encounter, amazing! 😀