That’s what I’m wondering, as it wasn’t mentioned in the original article… Although, if T5 is purely a BA terminal, there’s no point, as BA don’t have any on order, unless their Qantas codeshare flights will also move to T5 from T4 with them. :confused:
here’s the ATP…
As far as I can remember, when Crossair were looking at replacements for their 146’s, they looked at the A319, the 737-600, the Embraer 170/190 series and the CRJ170/190 series.
The Boeing was quickly dismissed as there was no economical sense, as then parent company SRGroup didn’t operate any Boeings. The 319 was dismissed, as without operating any other 320 family aircraft, it was too unwieldy.
Now, if the 319 didn’t make financial sense on it’s own, I don’t see that the 318 makes any what so ever… the weights are all wrong for it, basically.
Ok, within a family, it might make sense because of the economies of scale, but even the freight argument dosen’t wash…
Because the 318 still uses the 320’s wing, there isn’t enough space in the shortened fuselage for a freight door big enough to take the pallets that the other members of the family take.
So I think those airlines that operate the 320 series may go for the 318, but regional operators will always go for one of the various RJ’s.
Re: re nice photos via a330 cracy
Originally posted by skyjet
nice picutures andrew
i see the electra b757 200 opr for air sctoland looks good
i am so glad every time i came to this forum there is always great pictures posting via you keep up the great work and if you can post a couple of pictures of eny of the british world 737 300 if you have eny in your vast photo collection
keep up the good work
recards
skyjet
here ya go…
yeah, but it was already breaking up by then, as the tail plane was fished out of the bay between JFK and the part of Queens it came down in, so I don’t see that much relevance in the engine question…
They’re on the Airbus website all right, just hidden…
http://www.airbus.com/product/a318_specifications.asp
A318
height: 12.56m
length: 31.44m
span: 34.09m
A319
height: 11.76m
length: 33.84m
span: 34.09m
A320
height: 11.76m
length: 37.57m
span: 34.09m
A321
height: 11.76m
length: 44.51m
span: 34.09m
I’m pretty sure the 737-600 has a taller tailplane than the rest of the family, too.
I don’t know, nothing really seems to make much sense any more… BA’s early A320’s (the infamous B Cal ones) have CFM56 engines, but their newer 319/320’s are IAE powered.
Again, as GD says, surely it would make more sense to have a total commonality with the 737 fleet of CFM56’s rather than adding the IAE’s in… (unless it’s RR’s involvement they opted for…)
With LH, I can’t see any immediate logic.
Oh, and Hand, while the 318 is basically a short 319, it has a taller tailplane than the other 320 family aircraft. Maybe that’s the hitch?
right, as I have nothing better to do, I’ve gone through the G-INFO database and can now confirm the following 6 types of A320 are registered on the UK registry.
A320-111 as I said, BA have 5 of these early production models without wing fences. they’re powered by CFM56-5A1’s
A320-211. also powered by CFM56-5A1’s
A320-212. powered by CFM56-5A3’s.
A320-214. powered by CFM56-5B4/P’s.
A320-231. powered by IAE V2500-A1’s.
A320-232. powered by IAE V2527-A5’s.
And while I’m at it… there are only two types of A321 on the UK registry, they are…
A321-211. powered by CFM56-5B3/P’s.
A321-231. powered by IAE V2533-A5’s.
There are no A321-100’s on the UK registry, although these are the original model, the -200 is the IGW version, with an increased range of 5500nm as opposed to the 5000nm on the A321-100.
and finally, the 33 BA A319’s are are all the same series, and there is one solitary other A319 on the UK registry, operated by twinjet, and this is a different series (it’s the A319-132):
A319-131. powered by IAE V2522-A5’s
A319-132. powered by IAE V2524-A5’s.
So, in summary… Airbus single aisle aircraft that are -x1x are CFM powered, and those that are -x3x are IAE powered… don’t ask me how Airbus are fitting the 318’s PW6000’s into the equation, though…
yeah, as GD says, basically, it’s down to the engine option…
I’m not sure of the exact differentiation, so won’t try and explain that, although I will have a go at explaining the -100/-200…
as mongu said, only about a dozen of the original A320-100’s were made, before ailerons were added as standard, and these aircraft (with ailerons) are the -200 series. BA have several -100’s (inherited from B Cal) as well as several -200’s, also from the 80’s.
I believe the ones they are receiving now (along with the A319’s) are IGW machines, accounting for them being -232 as opposed to the original -200’s.
Possibly. Certainly when I was working at Jet, I saw some pamphlets from Boeing, and their Sat looked a bit like a square patch, which, like that, was on top of the 767’s that Jet were equipping at the time.
yeah, like I say, I doubt that either AF or LH will use it, so T2 dosen’t need upgraded… but I am curious about how Qantas’ flights will be handled, be they at T4, as now, or at T5 if and when they move with BA.
yeah, so, it needs a visit to the paintshop… it won’t matter what they paint on it, though…
I checked the reg of the a/c that Elation Airways posted, it susbsequently operated for Airtours for a year as G-JANM, and then was transferred to the Danish registry.
I checked the reg of the a/c that Elation Airways posted, it susbsequently operated for Airtours for a year as G-JANM, and then was transferred to the Danish registry.