very true, only ww1 medals are engraved, i lost a uncle in a japanese POW camp, he had the war medal, and the atlantic/ pacific star. in a little box, and his papers. my gran kept in a drawer for years, she never got over his loss, i dont think any medals were named, Unless for perhaps something like a VC MM, etc ?
Good Man yourself Tony 😀
and Flanker man.. many thanks for the links, really interesting 🙂 I bet you had fun seeing all them old soviet birds:) ..
what other did you manage to sit in.. Mig 15 or 17 ..there a couple of my faves too.. 🙂
Ah….the “Fishbourne Stuka”
The biggest Stuka ever built.
It had several multiple-duplicated instruments, about 57 oxygen bottles, had data plates riveted to every square centimetre of airframe, enough perspex to build a fifty foot long canopy and an unusual configuartion of seven main undercarriage legs and three tail oleos. Oh….not to mention twin engines and contra-rotating props.
Cor … I would LOVE to see a Photo of that one 🙂 :diablo::p
Hi Merkle
Why are those Su 7’s sitting back on their tails? And where was the photo taken.
PM sent to you as well.
Cheers Paul
Those Su’s are in the middle of Afghanistan.. Kabul i think, in its hey day the afghan air force was huge, and had 60 Su-7’s for a start . the Northern alliance used some (very few) and these are remnants of that airforce, there must be others, I have no doubt most of these willl be cut up and scrapped.. hence i said, ” look and weep” 🙁 … theres enough parts on one of them to get me all the bits i need, but due to war trophy laws, and the dangerous enviroment they must be in.. i dont think I would have a hope in hells chance.. I have however sent photo’s to the Ambassador of the afghan Embassy in London ,Just in case.. as you never know.. allthough i would consider myself lucky if i even got a reply.. .. such a shame 🙁
I suggest mate, never give up, Ive only just got hold of my cockpit, and its taken me years of searching, but something will come along for you..if you keep plodding along, and get to know people , if you believe in something, and work hard enough for it, eventually it will come true 🙂
Yes it did, and very ‘agricultural’ when up close too! 😀
ahh yes, thats what i love about ruski stuff, simple, basic, but very very rugged and effiecient :D… just look at there Guns.. all over the world, and go on forever.. :diablo:
and Thanks for your support Ollie 😀
One of the Delfins was owned by Retro Aviation, the other by Ian Brooks. Can’t remember who owned the Mig 21…seems an awful long time ago now!:D
Gotta admit Mark.. that Mig 21 did look mighty tasty .. 🙂 .. from what ive been hearing.. the Su-7 side by side with a Mig21 was like a Thunderchief .. next to a Skyhawk… Slight over exageration I know :p
wonder where the 21 is now :confused:
Stubborn but at least I`m glad to hear that you are strongly determined to do something with it. All I can help so far is to point you to some friends, known pleople in Czech and Slovak republic(former Czechoslovakia) owning private aircraft museums, a/c collections and junkyards that are known for reconstructing of cockpits, airframes or bartering with aircrafts at all. I do not guarantee any result, they might point you to another people which say at last “I`m sorry” to you, but give it a try.
1. Technical museum of Military history, these guys are doing mostly cockpit reconstructions of former Cz. military aircrafts.
http://vhtm.valka.cz/
http://vhtm.valka.cz/projekty.htm
2. Aircraft museum Olomouc, an aircraft restoration society, they are working for another museums(also abroad) helping them to renew their exhibits. Could be promising.
http://www.letecke-muzeum.cz/kontakt/
3. Air park, a private collector and barterer of former Czechoslovak aircrafts, a lot of stuff in his deposits, mostly miiltary.
http://www.airpark.wz.cz/
4. Vyskov Aircraft historic museum, another private museum, nice collection of military planes including several Su-7, they perform restoration work as well
http://www.lhs-vyskov.cz/
http://www.lhs-vyskov.cz/airexp.html
5. Private aircraft collection, Martin town, restoration of museum exhibits.
http://www.aeromuzeum.sk/index.php?nav=3&ID=foto
P.S. will check our archives for any airframe, cockpit drawings and plans as we still have many Su-7 manuals in our libraries. I will let you know.
Many Thanks Martinez for the links you have sent.. one of them has allready got back to me.. fingers crossed eh.. never know, they might have something, however small..
Just another question to the cockpiteers.. who owns the soviet stuff ive seen on previous cockpit fests, many years ago a Mig 21 and more recently L29 -Delfin types.. I just wondered , as these guys may know of another spares source 🙂
Also XM692 .. do you still have any instruments ?.. 😀
amazing photography !!!!.. Thanks for showing it..
I must add, to have a camera with such good qaulity , and Zoom lense.. Would i be right in saying you need a second mortgage to own one 😮
really Impressive stuff:D
The clock that is supposed to be in the centre console is one of the copies of the Jaeger le Coultre chronograph. There are many on ebay from the Stans which are modern productions – but you can get the original ACH from ebay as well – I have an original 1961 which I purchased from a nice gent in the East. It took 3 weeks to get here. The mechanism on the original is far better than in the modern one.
That Goes without Saying ..reminds me of what my grandad used to say to me… “they dont build themlike they used too !:D;)”.. theres alot of truth in that think 🙂
roll on 2011.. i’ll be damned if me or the Su-7 will miss next years event 😀
no matter what condition its in :);)
Thanks Paul..
Very kind of you, I would imagine the soviets are no different to us, I imagine gauges, etc would all be the same, depending on its period in service, and updated, Ie i imagine a 1956 Su-7 would have differnt gauges to one in 1971 ??
I found this little photo in my searches… look and weep 🙁
saying that , I have just written to the Afghan Embassy and Indian embassy in London, who knows, Nothing ventured , nothing gained .. gotta be worth a shot ..:D
Ps,
Just a thought, your Guy in Poland.. could he help at all, with gauges, or any odds and ends, switches, gunsights, flight sticks etc ??.. anything?? 🙂
i have tried RetroAviation ,but havent heard anything as of yet??. Perhaps it would be worth me contacting them again ?
Also Salad fingers, I did enquire quite a few years ago about the cockpit at Charlgrove .. it is infact a ex Pakistan Mig19 farmer .. yet again, the only one in exhistance as far as i am aware in this country ??
I did try to secure it.. but they were reluctant to let it go, perhaps it still serves a purpose there ??
merkle,
I hope that circumstances allow you to get to Cockpit-Fest next year, where I know you will be made very welcome by all of the other Cockpiteers!
I will endeavour to be the first to shake your hand and wish you luck with your project! 🙂
Go for it!!
Many Thanks TwinOtter..:D
well thats another 7 emails .. mostly to museums , collections in the former eastern Bloc.. Next.
Formal Letter to PALAM in India there Museum might be able to help, then Museums in the Middle East , but this needs formal letters to Embassy’s Etc, as they are very hard to contact.directly.. I wonder if it would be wise to contact Museums in Isreal ??.. they might have something..
and also apart from Nellis AFB in the states, is there any in the USA.. I know a lot of Mig 17 types went that way in the 90s did any of the Su-7 go there too ??
or should i say , not so much WHole ones, as more interested in Parts ??
I made a short Su-7 cockpit gallery, but hoping not to spoil your endeavour to do the cockpit restoration as there is damn lots of things inside. 😉
http://deton.lietadla.com/ru/su-7/su7.phpregards
M
yes i noticed, she is a very FULL, office, infact the guys at robertsbridge said, she is a very big tub, must be roomy, i knew allready theres quite a bt that goes into it, and said, probably not so roomy when all the levers and flashy things are added 😀